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101. Scissors Crossover
... you also please comment on the timbering. I have tried to ensure the critical timbers in the diamond have not moved except for the overlapping timbers in two places in the diamond. Was this the right approach? Best wishes Peter Attachment: attach_1793_2428_Scissors_after_ti mber_shoving.box 349 posted: 23 Mar 2014 20:28 from: Martin Wynne PeterD wrote: This has thrown up another query, lengthening can only take place on one side. Hi Peter, For the shove buttons or L/ S keys, hold down the SHIFT key. Lengthening/shortening then takes place at the other end. For the mouse actions, use throw to offset the timber that side, and then lengthen it back as needed. It's all in the? help notes on the shove timber dialog. I spend hours writing that stuff, but hardly anyone ever seems to read it. I don't mind a bit when folks ask how to do things, but I do get irritated when folks announce to the world what Templot can't do, when it is not true. regards, Martin. posted ...
... . I have just finished the main span part of the bridge, but have not yet done anything about side retaining walls, since that may need some further thought, due to the possible number of variations. I am not one hundred percent happy about the blue brickwork arrangement, may need further work, but I will sleep on that. Also am considering variable length bridges of this type, I need to work out a way of sectionalizing the span parts so that these may be joined to increase the span width (or shorten as required). If you have any suggestions in this area regarding prototype lengths, they would be greatly appreciated as I can then work out the incremental mid-section lengths to be able to produce any desired length of span (possible thought, 3ft or 4ft proto sections). It may just be possible to stretch or shrink the current image slightly, no more than say between 5% to 10% max, but it is not recommended, it would be better to partition. On the image, I have ...
... posted: 19 Sep 2019 09:21 from: RedgateModels Think I've found the answer- Mouse Action Real Adjust V Crossing Entry Straight? Also I've seen the use of CTRL F3, blanking. This would have removed the need for a couple of partials to get the switch tips right to the end of the turnout... posted: 19 Sep 2019 12:38 from: Martin Wynne RedgateModels wrote: Think I've found the answer- Mouse Action Real Adjust V Crossing Entry Straight? Hi Ian, No, that won't shorten the switch, and is not available with curviform crossings. The shortest switch in the list of pre-sets is 1:24. You need to create a custom switch for something shorter, click the button: 2_190728_450000000.png There is an extremely short custom switch in this old topic which you may be able to use instead of creating a new one: topic 280- message 1566 The file can be downloaded from: http://85a.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?id=239 The custom switch will then be at ...
... without severe radius reductions in the crossovers( face palm) posted: 27 Nov 2017 14:01 from: Martin Wynne madscientist wrote: in this case I find the toe of the turnout does not align correctly and the K is not 180( or 0) but 0.07 etc, i.e. off by a bit Hi Dave, If you follow the sequence I posted in my previous reply, it won't be off. By the way is there any way to speed up the tedious process of correcting lengths See the extend/shorten to meet functions: http://templot.com/companion/link_existing.php regards, Martin. posted: 27 Nov 2017 19:49 from: madscientist Martin I have another issue On occasion when using extend shorten, I get a "inaccuracy error" message ,i.e. with an option to go ahead anyway, I know its a tiny thing, but I cant see how I am generating these alignment issues in the first place any pointers? PS thanks for the tips on transition crossovers, I created the blank plain tracks ...
... ! Best wishes, Howard 4 Jan 2018 16:08 from: Martin Wynne John Lewis wrote: It seems to work OK, so there is no point in changing the folder name to 'tempot2'? Hi John, That advice was for Paul. No-one else should change it. cheers, Martin. posted: 5 Jan 2018 01:16 from: Martin Wynne I have just now replied on RMweb: To get the missing rail back, click the reset derived partial template menu item, see: tandem_menu_750x800.png To shorten or lengthen timbers at the number end, hold down the SHIFT key while clicking the shorten or lengthen buttons (or while pressing S or L). If you use the mouse actions instead of the buttons, alternate between adjusting the length and the throw to change the timber at the number end. You can swap the numbers to the other end by changing the hand of plain track, but that won't work for turnouts. All this stuff will be at: http://templot.com/companion/3_way_tandem_turnouts.php in due ...
106. Shoving Timbers
... 2008 11:25 from: Stuart Mitchell HI.. I have my plan and I'm shoving the timbers but I need to change side to shove the other way. Can this be done? if so how. Stuart Mitchell posted: 29 Jun 2008 12:11 from: Martin Wynne Stuart Mitchell wrote: I have my plan and I'm shoving the timbers but I need to change side to shove the other way. Can this be done? if so how. Hi Stuart, If you mean you want to lengthen or shorten a timber at the main-side (MS) end of the timber (i.e. the end where the timber number is shown), hold down the SHIFT key while clicking the lengthen or shorten buttons (or pressing the L or S keys). For the mouse actions, set the required timber length first, and then use the throw mouse action to move the timber endways to the required position. regards, Martin. posted: 29 Jun 2008 12:43 from: Stuart Mitchell Martin Thanks for the quick ...
... to a method that allows the rail to be lifted above the timbers and then chaired as discussed above. Plastic chairs and sleepers seems a possible way but I do like the strength of soldered track. I have seen the vero pin method mentioned elsewhere and I would welcome some guidance on its use. Presumably a 1mm hole needs to drilled in the copperclad timber and the pin inserted? What would be the best way of locating the holes accurately? The vero pins I have seen are quite long so presumably would need to be shortened and then pushed into the hole so that the flat top is flush with the top of the timber. Soldering the rail then fixes both securely. Check rails are similarly fixed. Using Vero pins how are the slide chairs implemented for the switch rails? What do the switch rails slide on? I can support the crossing vee using copper shim to lift it to the correct height. As Martin has already pointed out, the cosmetic chairs can then be added later. Thanks for any help you can provide. Charles posted ...
... 284 posted: 2 Feb 2015 09:35 from: Alan Turner I think this gives a more flowing layout. regards Alan Attachment: attach_2056_2618_shunting_v5_flow .box 288 posted: 2 Feb 2015 18:21 from: Tony W Hi Alan. I agree, the 1 in 4 Diamond will definitely require an outside slip road though. Tony. posted: 2 Feb 2015 21:52 from: Simon R Hi Alan and Tony, Many thanks for your inputs. I very much appreciate the flow that Alan has achieved. I have slightly shortened one of the sidings to include a building and moved the trackplan down towards the baseboard edge. I have created a background shape file to explain where I think the baseboard joins are and the extent of the "off stage" fiddle yard. I am assuming that the sector plate will pivot to join TR008 and provide a run round via the sector plate. Tony- I would be most grateful for some help with the outside slip. I have studied Martin's video but I think this refers to inside slips. I really ...
... prototype track work in templot assuming I havent the wrong end of the stick regards Dave Last edited on 3 Nov 2015 13:00 by madscientist posted: 3 Nov 2015 13:15 from: Martin Wynne madscientist wrote: But what I was really asking, is if you look at the photo the arrangement of check rails etc, seems to suggest its not a diamond. Is there a way to duplicate the prototype track work in templot Hi Dave, It is an irregular diamond, as often found in double junctions. The shortening effect of the long camera lens is making it look sharper than it really is. I can't see anything unusual about it, and I don't know any reason why there would be for an ordinary double junction. It can be created in Templot as in the video, and explained in this topic: topic 2617- message 18013 Replicating the prototype exactly is certainly possible. It may require some of the more advanced adjustments in Templot, although this one looks fairly standard. It also requires of course that you have a full ...
... crossing rail- untick box (assuming this is the rail that you don't want, which is most common). I am using C&L components too and I thoroughly recommend them. Though I am using plywood rather than plastic, so opted not to use flexi for the plain track. I can't comment on your other questions as I wouldn't like to give you incorrect information, but it looks good to me. Though TL046 is sitting on top (or underneath) a piece of plain track- you might like to shorten or remove the track. Best of luck,Derek posted: 24 Sep 2015 21:17 from: Martin Wynne Hi David, More about catch points, including a video, here: http://templot.com/companion/index.html?catch_points.htm And before someone yet again posts that they are trap points, not catch points, the term "trap" refers to their function -- the physical object is called a catch point (with 1 blade) or catch points (with 2 blades). Trap points can ...
... the transition function to join to transition curves. Well whatever you've done it works. Hi Godders, I haven't done anything. If you were having trouble you should have asked. See this (from 2002): http://templot.com/martweb/info_files/make_trans.htm At para 10: "If one of the original templates was itself a transition template, the new transition will be matched to it according to the position of its fixing peg. If the peg is within the transition zone, the original template will need shortening to that exact position to obtain a proper match with the new template." The difference now is that you don't need to move the peg to the required end or location, you can click options in the new dialog. But you can still use the peg method if you prefer by clicking the relevant option. Here is the note in the latest 212a change log: 8. The make transition function has new dialogs when one or both of the original templates is itself a transition curve: 2_061149_120000000.png Previously only the peg ...
... them to pack them with ballast to level the rails when needed. 5. likewise timbers should not be too close end-to-end. In that case either a single long timber is used instead, or two shorter timbers are halved and splice together to create a long timber. Such spliced joints have old fishplates bolted across them -- a nice modelling touch. 6. sometimes timbers must be moved from the ideal position to allow for point-rodding runs, signal wires, etc., and must sometimes be shortened at one end to clear catch pits, drains, etc. Here are a few links covering this subject on here: topic 2628 topic 2460 topic 1610 There are many more timbering topics if you do a search. regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Baffled beginners> Timber Shoving. From where to where? about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners ...
... 21 Oct 2016 20:43 from: RichardS Hello Martin, thank you for your reply. I don't think it is necessarily easier to align over AR than a map. It seems to be essentially the same process. But what using AR meant was that I could create a 'free-hand' drawing to fit a specific baseboard while ensuring that the curves I created where not less than the minimum I specified. Hellesdon to scale was, as I discovered, going to be far too big so what I have done is shortened and simplified the principal and I know it will fit my baseboard. Yes I could have sketched the same thing but I'm not the world's greatest draughtsman and that would still need scanning and scaling. My problem with Hellesdon (which I was otherwise quite pleased with) was where things joined up. I will have a look at the swell function, which I had tried to use but without a transition and see how that impacts the latest manifestation. The printed templates are superb. Regarding Hellesdon I'm grateful for your offer but ...
... this for plain rail too. (PS now that I've got the NERA books and putting the custom data it is a very simple process, thanks for previous advice on it- works well) Derek posted: 8 Nov 2015 03:16 from: Martin Wynne Hi Derek, The way to save any setting in Templot is to save a template containing it. Use your custom switch in a template and then store it as a library template. If its sole purpose is to save the switch, you would probably want to shorten it to just the length of the switch. Likewise for any other custom switches. When you want to use it in some other template, use the obtain functions. On the storage box, that's edit> obtain to the control template> obtain switch menu item. For a background template on the trackpad, obtain to the control> menu items on its pop-up context menu. regards, Martin. posted: 9 Nov 2015 01:44 from: DerekStuart Thanks Martin. I will try that tomorrow. Derek ...
... would have been easier to reply to Gordon if the colour indicators in the storage box were already available: 2_100727_140000000.png Also unfinished are: TWAIN input for picture shapes (direct from scanner) metafiles in picture shapes (re-scaled printing of PDF templates, e.g. needed for Scalefour) BS-113A vertical flat-bottom switches (needed for BigAndy- topic 2800- message 19561) file name information on printed templates (for Gordon) a bug in the platforms a bug in the file viewer useful new functions to extend/shorten and grow/prune templates to the nearest background boundary an on-screen keyboard for all the traditional keys which are missing on some tablet keyboard covers (F keys, Insert, Print Screen, Scroll Lock, Pause, etc.) and a few other things. All of which must be either finished or removed before I can release a new update. To which we can now add the chair markers. And while I am doing all that I'm not adding a single word to: http://templot.com/ ...
... : 29 Mar 2015 13:27 from: Martin Wynne Hi Rob, As Ian says, you can widen a sleeper by 2" by clicking the widen button (or pressing W) on the shove timber dialog: 2_290815_040000000.png To avoid having to do this on every template, you can make some changes before you start the track plan. Extend a good long length of approach and exit track on a turnout template, and widen all the joint sleepers. Tick the retain option boxes on the dialog above. Now you can shorten the turnout again for use. The shoved timbers will be retained in your subsequently stored templates, and reappear when required if you extend the length of them. This includes any plain track templates, which will use the widened sleepers from the approach track. An obvious omission from Templot is an option to automatically widen joint sleepers. It has been in my notebook for years. Maybe your message here will nudge me into doing something about it. edit: now done, see below. p.s. many companies which used 12 ...
117. Transition Curves:
... , and notch under> to CTRL-1. You don't need the notch for this, but it will make no difference. There is no need for the template on the right to be a transition curve, change it to a constant radius. The make transition function should then create the required S-curve transition between them, see: 2_021859_250000000.png Finally you need to adjust the template boundaries so that they are not within the transition zones. That will probably mean moving the fixing peg back to the other end and then shortening the template on the left. If the new transition zone is too long to do that, cancel the transition, increase the radius of the template on the right a little, and then try again. (You can quickly swap the fixing peg to the opposite end of the control template by clicking the red peg indicator box at the top left of the screen.) The original template on the right can probably be deleted and replaced entirely by the new transition curve, adjusting the boundary to match the adjacent template. ...
... menu that appears on the left has a peg align menu, click on that and select make transition curve from control template and select that and then select one of the other two options left or right. See the screen shots. Phil posted: 21 Aug 2016 12:45 from: Phil O Number 238_210744_490000000.png posted: 21 Aug 2016 12:47 from: Phil O Number 3 choosing the left hand option first 38_210746_240000000.png posted: 21 Aug 2016 12:50 from: Phil O and finally. Delete the unwanted templates and shorten the new one to fit and then redo the catch point. HTH Phil38_210748_420000000.png Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Baffled beginners> how do I fit a curve between two straights? about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors. indexing link for search engines back to top of page Please read this important note ...
... track, but the rail lengths and sleeper spacings remain the same. So the position of the joints and sleepers would get increasingly out of step as you move along the curve. Here you can see that on a sharp curve the joints get out of step very quickly, starting from being in line on the left: 2_130141_060000000.png On long straight tracks it would be possible to align the rail joints and spacings, but there is no reason to do that and it would be a lot of extra work -- it's likely that shortened rails would be needed on one track or the other at the start of the straight. It would be necessary to align the joints because the sleeper spacings are not constant within a rail length, being closed up towards the joints at each end of the rail. regards, Martin. posted: 13 Oct 2017 09:06 from: Tony W Martin Wynne wrote: Hi Tim, In the case of curved track it is physically impossible. The outer track is longer than the inner track, but the rail lengths and ...
120. F7 snapping
... /videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html This page also shows templates being created without any F7 snapping: http://templot.com/companion/link_existing.html contd... regards, Martin. posted: 19 Sep 2017 23:53 from: Martin Wynne... But of course there are lots of times when you do want to snap templates together. But there are then much better ways of doing it than F7 snapping, with far more options, and total control over what's happening. For example here I have shortened the turnout-road exit almost to the bare minimum, so that the branch track can start curving more severely as soon as possible. The branch track template can be snapped onto the turnout template like this, after clicking on the turnout: 2_191845_420000001.png With the result: 2_191845_420000000.png waiting now for some timber shoving and possibly some further curving adjustment. regards, Martin. posted: 20 Sep 2017 10:19 from: Andrew Duncan Oh lord Martin the last thing I wanted to do is either to shock you or make you ...
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