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... new facilities become available, the least we can do is take the trouble to read them periodically! You would need to go back a long way to see the introduction of the tools> make crossover function, it was part of the first release 17 years ago: tut5-16.gif But if you do read about new functions and try them, it would be helpful to post something saying so. That makes it more likely that others will notice it too. For example in the latest program update I added the extend/shorten to meet functions. I have found them extremely useful and time-saving, and I've been kicking myself for not doing some such years ago. See: topic 2969 I prepared a short tutorial page about them (begin paragraph 6): http://templot.com/companion/link_existing.html But so far silence. I don't know if anyone has tried them, found them useful, found any problems? Which means I suspect that the majority of users have not discovered them. I don't really know what I can do ...
... check rail dialog still showing, do make the control on some other template. Select the required end. Do make the control back on the first template. 2. the length limit on the TS check rails. I'm not sure if this is a bug or a feature or just a clunky user interface. What you are intended to do if you want longer check rails is 1. extend the overall length of the template (F4) sufficiently to contain them. 2. if that makes the MS exit too long, shorten it back using the mouse action (sorry no shortcut available for this one): 2_261725_480000000.png Or on the menu: 2_261749_300000000.png Traditionally nothing can exist beyond the overall template length (F4). There has to be a limit somewhere. When I introduced the adjustable exits I allowed the TS exit to break this rule (but not the MS exit, which can only be shortened). Strictly speaking the check rails are not part of the exit, they are part of the V-crossing, so must still be inside ...
... it with movable K-crossings (switch-diamond) or use much narrower flangeways. I'm puzzled how you will be able to run stock on this layout with such a mix of track standards. I would suggest adopting 00-SF or 00-BF standards -- for some old notes of mine about the 00 standards, see: message 567 I will change the diamond to 00-BF and add the slip road for you. Changing it to 00-SF would be preferable, but the 16.2mm track gauge would shorten the existing lead lengths and alignments. regards, Martin. posted: 14 Oct 2013 17:12 from: Martin Wynne Hi Steve, Here is your single-slip in 00-BF -- delete the existing diamond-crossing and add... the attached .box file. 2_141201_410000002.png 2_141201_410000000.png 2_141201_410000001.png As you can see, it was necessary to shorten the K-crossing check rail very significantly to clear the slip road rail. This is always the case with 00 gauge slips, although the narrower flangeway in 00- ...
... get there. Thanks for the help everybody. If anybody has any suggestions/comments please feel free. Cheers, Bryan. posted: 17 Oct 2017 17:05 from: John Palmer Bryan Hardwick wrote: A number of the wing/check rails are too long, but they will have to be adjusted on the build as they are as short as the software allows. Cheers, Bryan. Martin will be able to tell you whether such is the case or not, but I wonder whether the program is preventing further shortening of some wing rails because any such further shortening would prevent the rails concerned from performing their intended function. One area of potential difficulty in this respect is the checking of the obtuse crossing adjacent to the outer rail of the slip road. When a flangeway for the slip road is incorporated, the effect will be to make the check rails for that obtuse crossing very short, possibly to the extent that they are incapable of performing their intended checking function. If that is the case, one solution might be to find a ...
... go, then laid long lengths of plain track over this rough design. I also added some transition curves to soften some of the curves, so hopefully they almost disappears in the centre of the layout and are tightest farthest from your centre of interest. I then inserted points into the plain track. if you want several points in the same length of track, just Main> Store and background to make a duplicate (two identical pieces of track on top of each other). Go to the LH end of one and shorten it. (click on 1 or 0 just below the Main tab to choosed which end is fixed); then go to the RH end of the other piece of plain track and shorten that, in both cases using f4 for length. Get the joint between your two shortened pieces of track positioned where you want it, somewhere between the two points- then Template> insert turnout in plain track. I enclose the track plan and hope it may be of some help. Best of luck with your layout planning, ...
... main problem is determining whether the check rails are correct. I get the basic idea but not the 'deemed to satisfy' dimensions for them. The left half of the 'box' shows the diamond check rails and the upper main stock road check rail as automatically generated by Templot. The right half of the 'box' shows the altered diamond check rails and lower main stock road check rail. The changes I made are as follows:- a) To the right diamond:- i) change MS1& DS1 to machined& shortened the flare length to the mark (don't know it's name) because there didn't appear to be enough clearance from the crossing rail with a flared end and if I just shortened them they wouldn't check to diamond's V. ii) Lengthen MS4& DS4 (twice)- but does this give enough to work with DS1& MS1 respectively? b) Combine the lower left and right stock rail check rail. I can see that this is probably not necessary on a straight. On the inside of a sharper curve I can ...
... . Will these check the V-s properly? Hi Julian, The wheels must be under full control of the check rail before they reach the knuckle gap in the V-crossing, i.e. they must be on the working part of the check rail beyond the flared end. Otherwise the wheels could move a fraction sideways in the gap, leading to rough running, and they may even strike the nose of the vee. Unfortunately some of your crossings are not properly checked (yellow arrows): 2_010945_560000000.png Here I am shortening the length of the flared part to make sure the V-crossing is properly checked. This flare length mouse action does not affect the overall length of the check rail. Each end of a check rail is adjusted separately by clicking the label (in this case DS1): 2_010948_320000000.png This is at real> adjust check rails... menu item. regards, Martin. posted: 2 Nov 2014 12:49 from: Julian Gascoyne Martin Wynne wrote: The wheels must be under full control of the check rail ...
... to support the wheel flange as it crosses. I believe they've done this at Pendon to good effect. You do need to have all wheels with a standard flange depth to get awards with this dodge. I'm not sure I'd get away with it completely as I use mainly Gibson wheels but do have the odd loco or two with Ultrascale and I've never measured them to see how they compare? Alternatively I could have taken Martin's advice and gone for moving K crossings. Anyway I hope that you can see where I've had to shorten the chamfered rail ends, none too neatly I'm afraid but it works. 2787_061006_050000000.jpg The trench you can see in the middle of the photo is for wiring and just to the left of it is one the offending chamfered rail ends that gave me so much grief! That's it for now Kind regards Andrew Last edited on 7 Aug 2019 07:15 by Andrew Duncan posted: 6 Aug 2019 18:18 from: Tony W Hi Andrew. I think you are either very brave or very foolish attempting such a combination. ...
... 1:6" or "gentler than 1:6" to mean angles from 1:6 to 1:20 or more. regards, Martin. posted: 12 Mar 2012 20:02 from: AndyJ Thanks Martin... Thats made it alot clearer. Guess I just need to have a go at drawing it now!! Cheers Andy posted: 13 Mar 2012 18:54 from: AndyJ Hello again people.. Right i'm hoping i've made the switched diamond crossing properly?? Also i'm having trouble shortening the point labled need to make shorter. Cheers Andy Attachment: attach_1383_1813_Modified_Herstmon ceux.box 290 posted: posted: 14 Mar 2012 00:55 from: roythebus That turnout no.1 looks horribly sharp, especially if it's on a running line. 14 Mar 2012 00:55 from: roythebus That turnout no.1 looks horribly sharp, especially if it's on a running line. posted: 14 Mar 2012 10:08 from: wcampbell23 Hi Andy You can adjust the switch end of the turnout by choosing a different length of switch. This can ...
10. RH_Curved tandem
... " scale space (gauge-face to gauge face) for the second point blade to open behind the first one. This allows space for the slide chair on the second point blade and a bridge chair or bolted half-chair on the first one. Use the RULER tool (0.78.e) to measure the space. b) there must be at least 14" scale space either side of the middle V-crossing to allow space for the wing rails and the chairs on the adjacent rails. Sometimes the wing rails are shortened because of this and bolted half-chairs used for the running rail. Here's a picture showing that: http://www.scalefour.org/resources/images/chairs-4.jpg (Thanks to Keith Norgrove). c) no two V-crossings must be opposite one another, as this prevents the check rails being correctly positioned. You will soon discover that there are only certain combinations of two turnout sizes which will fit. You can't combine any two sizes which take your fancy. 5. Insert the middle V- ...
11. Changes in 218d
... the length or curving, make a branch track instead. No doubt this breaks somebody's rule about consistent user interfaces. They will just have to lump it. 4. I have created a new top menu (we haven't had one of those for ages) called utils. I have moved there the utility functions from the tools menu -- the ruler, dummy vehicle, metric calculator, etc. In a future update I want to split the spacing-ring and dummy vehicle into separate functions. This leaves the tools menu shortened to a more sensible length, and logically concerned only with track design. 5. After 20 years I have relaxed my self-imposed rule to make everything fit on a screen 1024 pixels wide. Most folks now have screens wider than that. Templot now needs at least 1120 pixels screen width. If you have a smaller screen and find part of the top toolbars missing, you will find duplicates of the missing buttons on the zoom/pan panel. Or you can change the program size using the slider at the ...
... of the partial template for the wing rail already created. The steps I've followed so far are: 1. Create base turnout (wider track gauge) 1.1. In this example it is a GWR 9ft v5 Regular turnout 1.2. 'Omit rails' – leave Turnout stock, Turnout check, Vee, and Main check rail. 1.3. Store& background 2. Create blade end of the main road crossing rail (copy from base turnout) 2.1. No timbering 2.2. 'Omit rails' – leave Main crossing rail 2.3. Shorten to about 1/3rd length (F4) 2.4. Store& background 3. Create wing rail and crossing end of the main road crossing rail (copy from base turnout) 3.1. No timbering 3.2. 'Omit rails' – leave Main crossing rail 3.3. Shorten to about 1/3rd length (Blanking length Ctrl+ F3) 3.4. Store& background 4. Create wing rail and crossing end of the turnout road crossing rail (copy from wing rail and crossing end of the main road crossing rail) 4.1 ...
... the turnouts on the plan. I think I've mostly got it right, probably needs further tweaking and may have used more longer sleepers than would have been normal (era is 1959-62, BR(S )). Attachment: attach_2469_3046_Shepperton_- _v11.0.4c__- _Attempting_Timber_Shoving.box 251 posted: 16 Jul 2017 23:55 from: Tony W Hi Kelly. I have had a look at your first attempt posted earlier. You must not move the timbers supporting the crossings as you have done, only lengthen/ shorten and twist them. Their spacing is predetermined by the crossing angle. This has been stated many times before but people still do it. Trying to timber crossovers correctly can be quite difficult sometimes. It is often easier to adjust the track spacing slightly to get the timbers to align before attempting anything else. I have reset the timbering of the platform crossover and adjusted the track centres to 44.9mm which gives a much better starting point. The ideal spacing will vary according to the crossing angle. I have realigned the approach curve ...
... topic: 488 Shortening a B6 turnout posted: 13 Jul 2008 07:13 from: Martin Wynne Dear all, I have just replied to a question on RMweb about how to shorten a B6 turnout to save space. This is a much better option than changing to an A5 turnout. I made a bit of Jing video to explain it. Click the picture to watch the video: b6_v_12ft_6_em.png For the notes about it, see: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p =398910#p398910 regards, Martin. posted: 14 Jul 2008 06:39 from: Paul Hamilton Thanks for that Martin, I hadn't caught it on RMWeb yet. That is an elegant solution I reckon. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Templot talk> Shortening a B6 turnout about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors. ...
15. platforms
... need a lot of additional work. The numbers are clicked on to select a timber for shoving. regards, Martin. posted: 22 May 2011 22:32 from: Paul Boyd Hi Martin But it's a no-no on the workpad, otherwise the timber shoving code is going to be well and truly broken and need a lot of additional work. The numbers are clicked on to select a timber for shoving. I thought that would be the case. You'd never know which end you were working from when lengthening or shortening the timbers, for instance, or which end is in-line! Anyway, it was a semi-random thought that's crosse my mind in the past! posted: 29 May 2011 00:58 from: Brian Nicholls Hi Martin, So far, I've had a very good evening Temploting using the TDV. I decided to have ago at Platforms, and WoW, what a brilliant addition this is to Templot. I spent several hours going round my New Street templates constructed to date (some 300+), ...
... topic: 2793 extend/shorten to meet background template posted: 26 Nov 2015 11:05 from: Martin Wynne I'm working on a new extend/shorten to meet function, primarily as an aid to using the make transition functions. The intention is that the original templates can be automatically adjusted for length to fit the new transition template. This will avoid the tedious business of zooming in to do that manually. Likewise when adjusting the underlying templates after make diamond-crossing at intersection. The new function will also be useful in other circumstances where the position of a template boundary needs to be moved, for example to enable a turnout to be inserted. Or where a gap or overlap needs to be eliminated, for example before using the roll rails to match function. At present such tasks have to be done manually. It is working quite well (within sensible limits). But I'm uncertain how much misalignment to allow before reporting an error in the original template alignments. In the process I have produced this alert dialog: 2_260617_500000000.png I'm aware ...
17. Single slips
... . Please be aware, that I have left your original templates as was, and still in the box file, but removed from the background of the trackpad. Also, I may have left some of my test templates in there, but again these have been removed from the background, so can be totally deleted if necessary. The overall roads (rails) of the slip diamond should follow exactly your original box file templates. As you will see, I had to use machined flares for the diamond check rails, and shorten the overall length to fit, but the check rails still perform their task adequately. Similarly for the two diamond Vee check rails on the one side. The slip road switches are both 1:7 B type (or 1:7 slip switches, as Martin suggested). I am sorry I did not spot your posting sooner, but have been too busy doing necessary external DIY on my property, and have not had my PC on for the last couple of weeks. All the best, Brian. Attachment: ...
... a 8x4ft P4. I have made this decision as I feel I would gain more satisfaction, plus the fact is is more achievable project. I have come up with a design which gives me some usability but I would like some help/advice on some of my track settings: Firstly the points at the far end of the run-around loop look far too long. I had drawn up a rough plan in Scarm to give myself an idea of layout which I then sketched over. Can somebody explain how I can shorten the points but keep the curve of the track? My second question is how to add a straight piece of track. I created a separate piece by adding a branch from an existing point then moving using the f7 command and snapping onto the end of another piece. But I can't get any closer to be straight then visual. I have attached the plan as I hope this will help to answer my queries, also please feel free to offer advice on any other areas that I haven't done properly. Like I said ...
... , with no visible difference for plain track. (a) I can split track at a peg, that's fine, is there a way to rejoin track that's split No, but you can undo changes to get back before the split, if it was recent. If you have since changed the radius of one or both of the templates, you may be able to use make transition to create a single template with a zero-length transition at the former boundary. If you haven't, you can use the extend/shorten to meet functions to extend one of the templates to its former length, and then delete the other one. (b) if I have a curve that I want to connect to a straight track, but I want to ensure the straight track remains at a given rotate angle, is there a way to do that. I currently find I have to tweak the curve, and re-snap the straight track and check that the K remains at zero for the straight. i.e. it would be useful to have ...
... the other two ends for whatever reason. It would be so very useful to do this, adjusting any small mismatch with radii alterations perhaps etc. Templot has grown so much over the years, that there are now many functions of which I have made but scant use. Is this one of them and if it is what is it? Any clues people please. I don't mean F7, useful though it is, as that impacts on the other end of the track. I think you are looking for the extend/shorten to meet functions: extend_shorten_trans5a.png This is essentially the same as using the F4 mouse action to change the overall length of the template, but Templot does it for you (and without reference to the fixing peg) to create an exact template boundary. More info: http://templot.com/companion/link_existing.html If you are looking for a function which will automatically correct mismatches, I'm afraid there isn't one. There is no way Templot can know which of the many adjustments is the one you require, or how it ...
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