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... to know it is working. Well I did rush a bit, but not specifically because of this. There were some loose ends in the tandems which I wanted to clear up before anyone tripped over them. Also Richard's CSV file. But unless 218c falls over is some way, I really must now leave coding for a while and get on with the docs. I did want to include Godrey's rotated background shapes too, but I have left them until next time. On the face of it, it should be a simple thing. But in practice it is a minefield. Everything already gets rotated 90 degrees between the screen and the printed output of course. cheers, Martin. posted: 21 Jan 2018 21:53 from: JFS I am feeling better now! Nothing is ever a simple thing in these matters- especially when it looks like it should be... Keep up the good work. Howard Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> ...
... or months later. Getting it recorded and indexed is the priority. regards, Martin. posted: 19 Oct 2015 00:00 from: DerekStuart Hello Martin Thanks for taking the time to reply to my rambling. I have tried looking at the link above but it seems to think I am looking on an Android 'phone and won't let me see anything. The odd template 'trick' was using a 9ft straight switch with a 1:24 vee to give me my line to make a jig for setting the set. Something simple but very helpful and far more accurate (and quicker) than drawing it with a ruler. Likewise a similar simple trick of printing just the closure rail, wing and making the wing rail long (with no taper) as a better guide for bending the knuckle; I bet there's dozens of similar things that can be done like that- and unless one is lucky enough to stumble across it in a discussion... Perhaps if you could set me up as a wiki user and let me make a couple of ...
123. ADMIN: please read
... It will be back, but I must find a way forward which preserves my sanity. Somewhat at the end of my tether, Martin. posted: 20 Dec 2011 11:19 from: Les G I think Martin is correct about the confusion created by a multiplicity of Beginners' tutorials, especially with the variety of versions covered. I also believe that it is time to call a moritorium on major forum contributions,[ valuable though they can be in the wider scheme] in favour of KISS- keeping it short and simple... Short questions: eg where is the bit that does that? and short answers: either a link to where it is at, or a couple of sentences pointing at which level of which menu. This would allow the struggling user to continue to get the little bit of help needed to keep going with basic formations. More importantly, Martin could relax, and leave the helping-hands task to the willing, experienced users; thus freeing him up to enjoy Christmas and apply his time, in his ...
... adding auto-incrementing revision numbers in places. Just where and when and under what conditions, without getting in the way of users with just a couple of templates to print, needs some thought. In addition it would be possible to record for every template which file (if any) it was loaded from, which file (if any) it was last saved to, the revision number in force when it was loaded and when it was saved, and the price of kippers at the time. Recording the information is simple. How to make it available conveniently when wanted needs much more thought. For example printing a file name alongside every template would obviously obscure too much detail. It might be better to print a reference number which could be looked up on an index list. Ideally any text on the printed templates needs to be rotated to lie along the direction of the track, rather than across the track as above. Unfortunately text rotation is not supported on all printers and PDF readers (which is why the timber numbers are not rotated ...
... from: JFS Andrew Duncan wrote: (swipes at us poor souls who don't/can't model to the ultimate gauge, aside) Moi?... and not that P4 is in anyway "ultimate"- just less of a compromise! I think it would be easy to over-complicate these things- as long as the bend is a reasonable radius, it will work. And plenty of track has been built- even in 18.83- with such things done incorrectly, and mostly it works... The simple fact that you are concerning yourself with such things tells me you will find the way which works for you. My solution to the 1:20 issue is to thread some chairs onto the closure rail (I always make my closure and wing rails in one piece for this reason) sit the assembly down on its the chairs, and then twist the rail at the knuckle until the wing rail comes back something like horizontal. If a vertical bend remain, you can put the wing rail edge-on in a vice ...
... topic: 1420 Comparison of N and 2mm Fine Scale gauges printout posted: 15 Mar 2011 12:07 from: kenbec I have decided to use code 40 track but haven't yet decided whether to use the N or 2mmFS gauge width for the standard track. As a test to allow me to create test straight track in both gauges I created a simple 500mm length drawing in N for UK gauge and printed it. I then changed to 2mmFS gauge using the gauge/scale selector and printed it. In both cases the Information Panel showed the correct gauge of 9mm and 9.42mm respectively. The printouts were identical. Does this mean that changing the gauge is not possible after a track template has been created? I thought from other reading that a change as simple as this was possible. Is the only way I can get a printout of a 2mm 9.42mm gauge straight by creating it as an original? This is not a problem with the turnouts I have designed as I intend to still use the 9mm standard in their case. Regards, ken PS ...
... topic: 3782 Bizarre printing offset? posted: 26 Sep 2020 11:44 from: William Williamson Hello there, I'm not really a beginner but this feels like it's a simple question with a simple solution! For some reason, when I print off a plan, the templates are really offset: http://i.imgur.com/6Nu5KIY.png The trim markings at the top aren't visible, and I can't work out what's going on. I've played with the trim margins configuration in the application but I can't really make head nor tail of what I've done wrong! This only happens in templot, and happens on all plans printed (even the default startup box) If I attempt to print to PDF, I get a printed area that's to scale, but with ginormous margins, as if it's designed for much smaller paper. Any ideas? posted: 26 Sep 2020 14:28 from: William Williamson Apologies, looks like this is something to do with my printer after all. I was able to set big margins and then trim to those, ...
... see its menu). regards, Martin. Attachment: attach_2284_2872_rich_outside_slip .box 246 posted: 12 May 2016 15:05 from: RK Hi Martin, Thanks. I think that should be ok, as it will only be low speed and primarily only locos heading back to shed, or coming off shed onto trains. I'm off to down load and investigate this outside slip box! Then see if I can get the sidings sorted out. At least this is the last of the complicated pointwork! I think the rest is all simple in comparison! Rich posted: 15 May 2016 23:51 from: Martin Wynne Hi Rich, Sorry about the delay in coming back on this. Life has been getting in the way. I will finish the partial templates for the half-scissors and post the .box file in a day or two. regards, Martin. posted: 17 May 2016 12:35 from: RK Hi Martin No problem at all I'm very grateful for your help. I'm somewhat caught up at the moment, having ended up in ...
129. LNWR track drawings.
... have received from them I will then have copyright on my copy... Yes- insane. However; I do accept that any archive has a reasonable case to raise a reasonable charge for material. I don't know what the current situation is but this used to be called a "keeperage charge"- or something like that. As I understand it this would be a one-off charge for material that was going to be used in any commercial way rather than just for personal use. So- to put it simple- personal use would incur the cost of photocopy while commercial use would incur the photocopy cost plus an agreed (reasonable) charge. My own interpretation of this was that I would not mind paying an archive a reasonable charge. If, however, they wanted an exorbitant amount I had a choice of naming and shaming or using an alternate source for the same information... If subsequently the archive had wanted to make a claim my belief was that they would have to prove that I had used material received from them ...
... and you'll hopefully see it do its dance! Thanks Alan. The check rail end mark is failing to be removed when it falls out of scope. I've looked at it several times and still can't find the bug -- but I will eventually. Thanks for reporting it. Martin. posted: 28 May 2011 08:39 from: Martin Wynne Paul Boyd wrote: I think I've found a bug in TDV relating to K crossing check rail flares. Hi Paul, Thanks for finding that for me. It was a simple typo in the code -- now fixed. All that stuff had to be completely rewritten for the irregular diamonds, so a few errors were bound to creep in. There is still an elusive problem with the position of the planing marks for the switch-diamond points, but I will nail that too before I'm done. regards, Martin. posted: 28 May 2011 13:07 from: Martin Wynne Quite often when working in the code I come across some old notes and I wonder if I made the right ...
131. Can I build this ?
... topic: 2632 Can I build this? posted: 11 Feb 2015 18:02 from: TPP I keep coming up with ideas for my model railway but when I come up with something simple I realise I just don't want that really- and If I was to do something simple why not just go Peco? I know what I really want but the whole thing is just frightning! This is what I want- I have never built track before, can barely open and close Templot( at the moment) But I am not stupid- I am good with my hands- and I can be dedicated Here is the problem- I want to build something very like this( but not an exact replica and shortened to fit my space)- I have a room dedicated to this that is 16' long and 7 feet wide Anyway- here it is... The original drawing http://www.thepurpleprimer.co.uk/templot/ramsgate/ser_harbour_station_1872_rotated.j pg 048008b0.jpg Ramsgate_Harbour_railway_station.j pg sands%20station%20ramsgate.jpg otherway.png I need it mirrored for my room's location ...
132. New User
... start a tandem turnout. I'm hampered a little by not being able to open the video tutorials because of a problem with my computer, which has only made itself apparent when I tried to view said tutorials. My thanks to Martin who has been very kind and in the short term he will be uploading a flash video for me to study. Thanks in anticipation Mick S posted: 12 Sep 2011 19:36 from: Dave Summers With respect, I would suggest that tandem turnouts come later in the learning process. Start simple and work up to it. If you're learning the piano, you don't start with Chopin! posted: 12 Sep 2011 19:51 from: Rob Manchester Hi, I agree fully with Dave. Learn how Templot does the basics first with plain track and simple turnouts before you start with the more complicated things. It can be quite a challenge to get going with Templot if you think along the lines of CAD or other graphics programs but it is well worth it for the versatility it offers. For a product that ...
... topic: 2927 Converting an exisiting plan to a different Gauge posted: 18 Sep 2016 16:41 from: Druid Help Just a general question there is a track plan in a box file message 16314 by DaveLong is their a simple way to convert his P4 plan to GOG OF 32.mm. Andrew posted: 18 Sep 2016 21:38 from: Martin Wynne Druid wrote: Just a general question there is a track plan in a box file message 16314 by DaveLong is their a simple way to convert his P4 plan to GOG OF 32.mm. Hi Andrew, Welcome to Templot Club. For gauge conversions see: topic 2911- message 20601 p.s. many 7mm modellers who hand-build track now prefer 0-MF (31.5mm) rather than GOG-F, for better running with Slater's-pattern wheels. regards, Martin. posted: 19 Sep 2016 01:03 from: Druid Martin Much appreciated. Andrew Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums ...
134. Loosing K rails
... topic: 1467 Loosing K rails posted: 26 Apr 2011 16:05 from: Raymond The attached box file shows a diamond I am working on. The item 'Un-named' has no K rails. I was using F5 to alter the angle and the rails simply vanish at about 1.8 but the other diamond went down to 1:7.5 without problem. I am confused and cannot see where I have gone wrong, probably something simple too. Regards Raymond Attachment: attach_1047_1467_Odd_result.box 169 posted: 26 Apr 2011 17:50 from: Martin Wynne Raymond wrote: I was using F5 to alter the angle and the rails simply vanish at about 1.8 but the other diamond went down to 1:7.5 without problem. Hi Raymond, Diamond-crossings with K-crossings flatter than 1:8 are required to be switch-diamonds (i.e. with movable K-crossings which don't have check rails). See: topic 731- message 4156 More info at real> K-crossing options>? K-crossings- help menu item. ...
135. Getting Started
... topic: 1837 Getting Started posted: 19 Feb 2012 12:44 from: Adrian (ffoil) Hello, I've downloaded TEMPLOT Version 0.97.b, and I'm trying to start to produce a simple yard (before moving on to something more complicated), but I think I'm falling at the first hurdle. When I start up, it shows me a curved turnout, which seems to be anchored to the bottom left hand corner of the screen. How do I move it to somewhere more useful (I've worked out how to change the shape of it). I did at one point (no pun intended) manage to delete it, but when I tried to place a piece of track, I only seemed to be able to align it with the line of the "branch" part of the now vanished turnout. Where am I going wrong? Thanks Adrian posted: 19 Feb 2012 13:23 from: Martin Wynne Adrian (ffoil) wrote: Where am I going wrong? Hi Adrian, Welcome to Templot Club. To move the ...
... I think I'm forgotten something but I don't know what. Thanks for your help from Spain. Regads. Antonio. posted: 22 Apr 2011 15:26 from: Martin Wynne Hi Antonio, Welcome to Templot Club. Have you perhaps mixed up mm and inch units? Try clicking the main/control> pad view fit shapes menu item, which will zoom in or out to just fit your current background shapes. Which version of Templot are you using? Please bear in mind that the DXF import in Templot is very simple and will import only basic 2D line and arc entities, and all blocks must be exploded when saving the DXF file. If you post again and attach your DXF file, we can perhaps see what is causing the problem. regards, Martin. posted: 22 Apr 2011 15:44 from: Antrox Hi Martin! Thanks a lot for your help. Clicking on the menu option you said Templot zooms to the 0,0 coordinate point and nothing is shown. The version of Templot I'm using is 0,91.c ...
137. F10 swell function
... F10 swell function posted: 9 Apr 2011 15:52 from: Jason I'm having a hard time with Templot. It seems such a wonderful thing and I can't wait until I can use it properly, it's the basics I'm struggling with. I have worked along with the track plan video and can copy that in my own work, I can't however use F10 to swell the track. I would like to know how to after adding and positioning a turnout how to add just plain track to it instead of a turnout or simple crossover. All the best and thanks, Jason. posted: 9 Apr 2011 16:28 from: Martin Wynne Hi Jason, Welcome to Templot Club. Which version of Templot are you using? Look in help> about Templot menu item. The F10 swell function was introduced after version 074b, so if you are still using that version you need to upgrade to version 091c (free) if you want to use F10 -- a full explanation of the difference between these two versions was in my order confirmation letter ...
138. Sleepers and timbers
... topic: 1793 Sleepers and timbers posted: 19 Jan 2012 14:24 from: ChrisO As a new user, I think I'm finally getting to grips with all things Templot; with one exception. Although I understand and have largely figured out the 'shove timber' function and other associated bits, ultimately I've got no idea on prototype sleeper patterns, how they were laid etc. For example, I've created a nice, neat relativey simple straight double junction using B8 crossings, but how were the timbers laid? Should the sleepers go across both points/turnouts in one 'unbroken timber'? Do they remain perpendicular to the points as they go under the diamond, or do they alter to be perpendicular to the diamond itself? I've seen a few photos and delved into a couple of books, but clear images seem hard to come by. Thanks for any assiatance Chris posted: 19 Jan 2012 15:39 from: Les G Chris, A fair question; you will find that the arrangements for placing timbers varied with company, time of formation ...
... these two pieces of track together using some sort of transition curve? Many thanks in advance,Tom posted: 6 Dec 2015 16:37 from: Martin Wynne grob1234 wrote: Continuing on with my silly questions! As you may notice, I am working my way through plotting a well known ECML station. Hi Tom, A sensible question would have been: "Is it a good idea to try to learn Templot while designing my next major project, or would it be better to learn all the Templot stuff first on simple trial layouts, and then apply my Templot skills to my intended project?" Guess what my answer would have been? As you are you are likely to get well into making sawdust, and then realise when you know more about Templot that you could have made a better plan. Even at a basic level, Templot is 10 times easier to learn without a background scan obscuring what you are seeing. Aligning tracks over a prototype map is at the deep end of Templotting, and a good result usually means using all ...
... the county series might have used Cassini. The "datum" is the reference position for those lines. OS used their 1936 datum for many years, obviously this wasn't around when the Victorians surveyed the county series. Now the modern datum is WGS84 and its various refinements. My original comments on the other thread are still relevant. The UK was precisely measured by the early 20th century and trig pillars precisely positioned. So although the maps may be drawn on different cup thh datums, they will all be internally accurate and a simple xy shift will bring them into agreement. It's when the scans get rubber-sheeted to fit universal Google projections that distortions begin to occur. If only the earth was flat then these issues wouldn't occur! posted: 4 Sep 2020 18:39 from: DerekStuart Thanks Martin. Although I have seen the distortion you describe, I haven't found any in this case. I imported directly into Templot. I have put the templates over the map as usual and after a little 'fettling' what has pleasantly surprised me is how ...
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