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... the trouble. Martin: Before adding the wing rails, check that the vee nose is correctly gauged from the stock rails, and equidistant between them. Rob: There aren't any stock rails at this stage in the construction process. I am trying to make the common crossing first( the hardest part!). I want to have the PCB timbers on the Templot template with just the vee and wing rails soldered to it. Imagine buying a pre-soldered common crossing from Brian Lewis and just plonking that down onto the sleepers. There didn't seem much mileage in making them like Brian does with small metal strips soldered underneath( for guys building plastic or wood based turnouts) as the PCB timbers can perform the same function for me. Martin: Then make sure that the angle of the bend in the wing rail exactly matches the crossing angle on the vee. Check by sliding the wing rail through the gauge tools up against the vee and seeing that it is properly flush against the side of the vee. Adjust the bend as necessary. Then ...
182. Confused beginner
... add turnouts to it and not build the plan from small pieces. However after adding some plain track to the turnout road, I can't now bend the end of it to start the next curve. So should I shorten the straight track to the point of beginning the curve and then add a curved piece or is there a way to curve (or bend) around a midpoint (or other location)? b) Is there a way to "snap" one piece to another so that they line up correctly with correct sleeper spacing? c) How do you move the ruler? It only seems to display in one place and I need to move it to different locations? I realise this is basic stuff but 5 minutes of explanation is worth about two hours of experimenting. I can attach my box *& bgs files if that will help Thanks David posted: 15 Sep 2015 14:24 from: Martin Wynne rynd2it wrote: a) after adding some plain track to the turnout road, I can't now bend the end of it to ...
183. Not quite Ogbourne
... switch and crossing practice and have had adjustments made as best as I can work out based on the GWSG publication on the matter by David Smith. The rails are based on GWR 44'6" lengths with 18 timbers. The catch points in the lead are just plonked over the turnout in the yard. I read that the only way to do this is separate templates. (I think I could do better next time by idea of copying the control, changing end for end and using roam for positioning.) I know the sleepers aren't properly adjusted. I haven't quite figured this out. The sleeper rolling does something but regardless of the option I don't seem to get a correct outcome when I count the sleepers between rail end marks. Worse though, I expect, is the matching up to the ends of the turnouts, which I decided to achieve by snaking the plain track through the peg so that I could match the spacing from the last timber and/or adjusting the length until I lost the rail joint in the right place. It's good ...
... topic: 861 Can I do the following? posted: 10 Jun 2009 22:09 from: MikeTrice Oh boy, this is going to be a slow learning experience. Any advice regarding learning Templot from recent new users gratefully received. I have found how to override track gauge and check gauge widths. On the other hand I have not found if it possible to do the following: Change sleeper width for both turnouts and plain track. Change default sleeper spacing for turnouts. Change the length of the machined ends on checkrails. Any suggestions? Thanks posted: 10 Jun 2009 23:40 from: Martin Wynne Hi Mike, Change sleeper width for both turnouts and plain track. Change default sleeper spacing for turnouts. Turnouts have timbers. Plain track has sleepers. It is important to keep this distinction in mind in using the Templot terminology. In UK track, they are not the same width. In version 091c, click the real> timbering> timbering data... menu item. Click the more info F1 button, and the ...
185. Sleeper colour
... topic: 3504 Sleeper colour posted: 23 Sep 2019 11:13 from: johnbirch72 I want to use a Templot print out as part of a scaled down mock up model for a new project. Can I change the colour of the sleepers on the print out? John posted: 23 Sep 2019 11:26 from: Martin Wynne johnbirch72 wrote: I want to use a Templot print out as part of a scaled down mock up model for a new project. Can I change the colour of the sleepers on the print out? Hi John, Sure. And all the other colours. Go here in Templot version 2.23.c 2_230623_300000000.png Very shortly I shall be releasing version 2.23.d of Templot with a slight change: 2_230623_310000001.png cheers, Martin. posted: 23 Sep 2019 11:34 from: johnbirch72 Thanks Martin. Not sure how I missed that. Regards John Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Baffled beginners> Sleeper colour about Templot Club Templot Companion ...
... (s scale) and 1:32 (gauge one) layouts but the indecision about chair is stopping me to progress. 1871_221622_490000000.jpg posted: 23 Apr 2010 01:15 from: Martin Wynne Ewerthon Mota wrote: what chair makes the bottom of the rail be most apart from the top of the timber? Hi Ewerthon, Welcome to Templot Club. The standard base thickness for all bullhead chairs is 1.3/4" (44mm). This is the amount by which the underside of the bullhead rail is raised above the sleeper tops. This "daylight" between the rail and the sleepers and ballast is a characteristic feature of bullhead track -- in contrast to most types of flat-bottom track where the foot of the rail is flush, or nearly so, to the sleepers. "Bridge" chairs are so-called because they are mainly intended for use on bridges, i.e. metal girder bridges and viaducts. Such bridges usually have longitudinal timbers (" waybeams") running along the top of the girders to which the chairs are ...
... you are working on the background to move groups of templates, draw background shapes, save files, etc., you can simply ignore this template, or hide it if you find it distracting. regards, Martin. posted: 13 Aug 2010 10:03 from: roythebus Thanks for the info. I managed to arrange and print the curved crossove this morning; so much to remember, my brain's going to explode... I tried by starting with the inner of the double teack points, but then found the sleeper spacing was probably wrong as Templot seems to call that the turnout road rather than the main, so I started afresh with the point on the outer track, and that solve that problem. It surprised me a bit how much room a C10 curved crossover on a 42" radius take up! I suspect I need to sit in a darkened room with a large glass of something to master Templot. Slightly off-topic, is there a way of making a jig for crossings? I'm a bit nervous of lining everything ...
188. Timbering
... topic: 980 Timbering posted: 23 Nov 2009 22:29 from: marc witten hi can anyone assist have some sleepers/timbering that i have already got in scale size ie already in mm example 50mm long ,6mm wide,2mm thick how do i put this into Templot that uses actual real life sizes,also sleepering at 25mm centers too,is it a case of converting the actual model dimension by the scale to give me the real size ,then do i use the figure,or is there a simpler way,also how do i alter a L/H turnout to a R/h turnout as i have forgotten,because my PC crashed sometime back and i'm only slowly getting back to the swing of it, regards Marc posted: 23 Nov 2009 23:08 from: Martin Wynne marc witten wrote: hi can anyone assist have some sleepers/timbering that I have already got in scale size ie already in mm example 50mm long, 6mm wide, 2mm thick. How do I put this into Templot that uses actual ...
189. Go slow on a Mac
... topic: 2129 Go slow on a Mac posted: 28 Dec 2012 16:40 from: Simon Dunkley Have had occasional problems with Templot running on a Mac via Crossover, in that some activities cause Templot to proceed very, very slowly, and occasionally just sit there and hang. Anyway, all I am trying to do at the moment is specify a new custom rail length and sleeper spacing, and if I can get to the spacing from the first sleeper to the second sleeper, I am doing well. The data entry window is active, and indeed is sitting in front of everything else and completely immoveable. Earlier I managed this, but when trying to alter the sleeper width to something non-standard, the session just hung on me, and I had to force quit it. OK, it may be that there is something specific to my installation, but it may indicate something more generic- I recall Martin mentioning something about maths calculations. posted: 28 Dec 2012 17:58 from: Martin Wynne Hi Simon, There ...
... the basic concepts I am now looking to the future. Hopefully the following is not too OT for the Forum... The size and 'complexity' of my proposed layout is an indication of my liking of 'Operations' as much as modelling. My period of operations is therefore rather wide ranging from the dying days of Corporate Blue through Sectorisation to contemporary freight. As you can see, my turnout templates are basically REA semi-curved. I am gradually 'relaying' the main tracks with CWR as per your notes utilising 24 sleepers per 60' length for straights and 26 sleepers per 60' for curved track. However, what I am not sure about is what to convert the turnouts to. If I base the infrastructure around 1990 would the main running line turnouts still be wood timbered within concrete sleepered plain track? Should FB rail and timbers be 'C' series curved flexible switches? How much pointwork and plain track off the mainline would still be BH? (I am thinking concrete sleepers and FB for the main four Platforms and BH for the ...
... topic: 3021 Moving from Computer to Layout Construction posted: 9 May 2017 06:40 from: Rick I love Templot. Having spent a good deal of time over the last couple of months learning/ relearning the intracacies of Templot that make this software so fantastic, I can now say that it's time to put down the mouse and keyboard and pick up some glue, sleepers and rail. Construction has started. I was able to print the many A0 size sheets of paper that was generated by Templot to a PDF file, use these to help cut the benchwork to size and then glue them down to the plywood ready for track laying. It's been about 12 years since I handlaid any rail so I'll have to make a soldering jig to build the turnouts. Sleepers are being laid and this can be a very therapeutic exercise in its own right. I've added a photo to show some progress. Thanks to Martin for developing this exceptional piece of software and thanks to the many contributors on this forum who add to the understanding of using the ...
... topic: 698 Sleeper spacing across template boundaries posted: 16 Jan 2009 22:51 from: Len Cattley Hi, Can someone remind me how you join plain track together keeping the correct sleeper spacing? Thanks Len Cattley posted: 17 Jan 2009 16:43 from: Martin Wynne Len Cattley wrote: Can someone remind me how you join plain track together keeping the correct sleeper spacing? Hi Len, For details, go to the 082d changes page. Scroll down to new roll rails functions and click the info icon. Ask again if it's not clear. Wait until your track plan is finalised before doing this -- as with timber shoving, your work may be wasted if you make design changes afterwards. regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Templot talk> Sleeper spacing across template boundaries about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and ...
... topic: 2215 Printed sleeper numbers on plain track posted: 13 May 2013 18:26 from: Martin Wynne While I have been modifying the code to show the new template ID numbers on the printed templates, I have added an option which I have had in mind for some time: 2_131312_370000000.png Unticking this option causes the sleeper numbers to be omitted from plain track -- i.e. sleepers with numbers prefixed A, E, N, or R. Plain track will then be identified with the template ID number only, at approximately 100mm intervals. This will make the print-outs a lot less cluttered. This option is included in your saved program preferences. The option remains on by default for compatibility with previous versions. Note that this option applies to the output only -- there is no effect on the screen (for timber shoving, etc.). In the next program update. regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> ...
... FraserSmith I was looking through Wikipedia for pictures of timbering at wide track formations and spotted this photo by Signalhead under CC BY-SA 3.0 in the Switched Diamond section. I have a couple of similar situations and I was unsure as to how the timbering would be dealt with but having seen this I think I might use this method. 3137_121655_330000000.png Is it common for the timbers to be arranged like this with alternate timbers having joints in the 4ft of the crossing tracks? It's not clear whether the last few timbers towards the concrete sleepers are similarly joined. Between the right hand tracks on the three before the concrete it appears that the sleepers might be shorter but it's difficult to tell with the ballast as it is. The left hand side is similarly vague. Since when would this arrangement have been used in such junctions? Thanks in anticipation Fraser posted: 12 Feb 2017 23:50 from: Tony W Hi Fraser. Yes, this would be a typical method of timbering such a situation avoiding overly long timbers in the process. Having gaps in the ...
... , Yes, that's intended. Prototypically it is quite rare for a platform to be alongside the diverging road of a turnout. However, if you do need that: 1. copy the turnout to the control. 2. click tools> make split> make plain track turnout road> on external geometrical radius menu item. If that menu item is greyed out: a. if the peg is on CTRL-0 put it on CTRL-1 (or anywhere except CTRL-0). b. add a few sleepers of approach track (F3 mouse action). c. try 2. again. Add more approach track until it is not greyed out. 3. click geometry> track centre-lines only menu item. 4. click real> platforms... menu item and add a turnout-side platform. 5. if necessary, put the peg on CTRL-1 and shorten it (F4 mouse action). 6. store and background it (INSERT key). regards, Martin. posted: 31 Mar ...
... topic: 1159 3 way interlaced turnout posted: 4 Jul 2010 16:57 from: Hayfield I thought some of you might be interested in this turnout982_041151_430000000.jpg I think the termanology for the type is interlaced. 982_041154_180000000.jpg Its an old RTR turnout I think the sleepers are Paxoline and brass shin has been wrapped around the sleepers under the rails. 982_041156_350000000.jpg Please has anyone any information about the makers Attachment: attach_817_1159_Picture_772.jpg 513 posted: 4 Jul 2010 17:17 from: Martin Wynne Hayfield wrote: Please has anyone any information about the makers Hi John, That takes me back. It is either Welkut or Gem, the former I think. It's not Wrenn as they used a tubular rivet type of fixing. It's easy to see the impact Peco Streamline made when first introduced around 1960. Thanks for the pictures. regards, Martin. posted: 4 Jul 2010 17:24 from: Hayfield Martin That was quick. I have a GEM turnout (though it may well be a later version) which has plastic sleepers and a cast frog (that was ...
197. Y turnouts
... half an hour and here is the result. Raymond Attachment: attach_374_603_Y_turnout_1in8.box 569 posted: 6 Mar 2017 23:07 from: Chris Noble Martin/Raymond New to Templot and first post in the forum so please be gentle with me. I have been following the tutorial for producing symmetrical Y-Turnouts along with the addition comments in this thread and for some reason I can't quite get the end result to match those here and in the tutorial in that my turnout at the Y end is not level, it has two additional sleepers, E1& E2. Would you mind taking a look at the attached and offering a critique please? Regards Chris Attachment: attach_2395_603_Y_Turnout_with_err ors.box 294 posted: 6 Mar 2017 23:58 from: Martin Wynne Hi Chris, Welcome to Templot Club. Please disregard this old topic. Instead see this newer one: topic 2768 18 months on from that, I still haven't updated all these old topics and videos. I'm very sorry about that. But are you sure you want a symmetrical turnout? Modellers love them, but ...
198. Custom plain track
... topic: 661 Custom plain track posted: 16 Dec 2008 04:54 from: Templot User I model the Brighton- in the 1890s, and therefore need to set up the default straight track lengths of 30' of 12 sleepers per length, and put in the pairs of sleeper spacings either side of the fishplates of 1'-1.5/8". So far I have not found out how to do this. Can you save me a bit of hunting through the voluminous website please, and tell me how to do this? Mike W posted: 16 Dec 2008 05:19 from: Martin Wynne Mike wrote: I model the Brighton- in the 1890s, and therefore need to set up the default straight track lengths of 30' of 12 sleepers per length, and put in the pairs of sleeper spacings either side of the fishplates of 1'-1.5/8". So far I have not found out how to do this. Can you save me a bit of hunting through the voluminous website please, and tell ...
... . posted: 15 Jan 2018 11:18 from: John Palmer Very impressed by the tandem making functions, as I've always struggled with single sided tandems. However, I hit a problem when playing around with these functions. I created a single sided left hand tandem based on a C9 REA initial configuration, then started to adjust the timbering. I shortened some of the through timbers, then made the branch track template the control. When I attempted to roll rails on the the branch track with Ctrl+ F4, the sleepers of the branch track completely disappeared, as the attached image shows. 2129_150558_010000000.png As soon as I click the screen to de-activate the mouse-controlled roll rails function the sleeper display returns, but for practical purposes the value of the 'roll rails' function has been lost because I can no longer see where the sleepers are being repositioned as I move the mouse. So far as I can tell, this seems to be related in some way to the tandem making function. I tried exiting and reloading Templot, loading ...
... topic: 720 timber shoving question posted: 2 Feb 2009 13:01 from: Martin Wynne copied from RMweb If I were to draw a cross-over from one line to the other in double track, would Templot draw all the interlaced sleepers? Templot includes full controls to create custom timbering layouts (called "timber shoving"), but it doesn't do it for you. That's because there is an infinite number of prototype permutations, and only you know what you want. When you click "make crossover" Templot automatically leaves a space in the timbering on one side, to remind you that some timber shoving will be needed to extend long timbers across from the other side. It's quite quick to do -- just click on the timber's number and then press the L key (lengthen) a few times. Each press adds 6" (scale) to the length. If you wish, every individual timber and sleeper in Templot can be adjusted for exact size and position, but normally it's only necessary to adjust a few of ...
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