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... topic: 1754 Rivet& Ply Track- rivet size? posted: 30 Dec 2011 14:23 from: Richard_Jones Does anyone have any views on rivet sizes for rivet and Ply built track? EMGS offer both 2mm and 2.5mm rivets- whilst if you work in EM (like me), you need the 2.5mm rivets on the pre-punched plain sleepers, is there any reason why you shouldn't use the 2mm rivets on pointwork where you can make certain it is directly under the rail? Presumably this would also be easier for fitting cosmetic chairs? I have a few packs of the original Studiolith tinned steel rivets, if anyone want them bets wishes for Christmas and the New Year Richard posted: 30 Dec 2011 15:08 from: Geoff Cook Richard_Jones wrote: Does anyone have any views on rivet sizes for rivet and Ply built track? EMGS offer both 2mm and 2.5mm rivets- whilst if you work in EM (like me), you need the 2.5mm rivets on the pre-punched plain sleepers, is there any reason why you ...
... 2019 07:34 from: RedgateModels OK, getting there now, still no proper turnout templates, and frankly I have no idea how to start to convert the monster I have created. .box file left on the laptop too so will have to make do with a photo. Note carefully (!) drawn on common crossings.... 2013_130227_270000000.jpg it's in OO at the moment too, will be to OO-SF standards through the crossings with 1mm flangeways when built, probably. Next steps are to order some PCB sleepers and gauges and have a go posted: 14 Sep 2019 09:19 from: RedgateModels Good morning, I've had a look and can't see how to make a new template for dual gauge track. Can someone point me in the right direction? Ideally OO-SF and N gauges with sleeper spacing to 4mm/ft Thanks posted: 14 Sep 2019 17:32 from: Tony W RedgateModels wrote: Good morning, I've had a look and can't see how to make a new template for dual gauge track. Can ...
... topic: 3260 Total timbering lengths on trackplan posted: 19 Apr 2018 22:18 from: Rob Manchester Hi Martin, The Storage box facility to add up the total length of timbering on all or some background templates is very useful. You can group some templates( say the ones containing only plain track) to sum the sleeper lengths but templates that have S&C work inserted are mixed between two widths- such as 3.3mm/10" and 4mm/12" on an EM or P4 plan. Would it be possible in a future update( ie not now or this week/month but when you have the inclination) to show the total lengths of plain track and turnout timbering as two figures rather than rolling them into one. This would help me( and others?) in checking that sufficient materials are to hand before building comences. I realise that some scale/gauge layouts may have odd timber widths or combinations but I suspect the vast majority of plans drawn using Templot have either one width throughout or a standard plain track ...
... , let alone reveals any clues as to North British timbering practice for such a unit. I am even beginning to wonder whether, exceptionally, the NBR made use of timbers extending across the full width of a tandem formation. So, if anyone out there can provide me with any information about how the NBR went about timbering a tandem, it would be much appreciated. John, It's not NB but Caley and it's not a tandem, but here's a picture of a three way at Crow Road station on Glasgow showing that sleepers were used throughout. I think that there were some detail variations on NB and Caledonian practices but I'm sure that they all followed the same general rules. 25_100450_140000000.jpg A lot of pre-Grouping interlaced turnouts survived well into the BR period in Scotland- this picture was taken in 1953 and the turnout would probably have survived until the line was closed in the 1960s. I've got another picture somewhere of interlaced turnouts taken in the early 1980s in Scotland which showed that the timbers and the chairs had obviously been replaced at some time ...
... topic: 996 Southern Railway- Westerham Valley posted: 22 Dec 2009 15:06 from: Trevor Grout I have been toiling away with this paln for some time now, and I am having some slight problems! Can anyone help me please? 1, Plain Track. when I extend the length of plain track, i keep getting an extra sleeper under the rail joint, I can get rid of it by timber shoving, but would like for this not to happen. 2. The back siding. This is causing me some issues, namely with alignment to the plan, now the plan is a really poor copy from an a4 sheet of paper scanned in, I do have 40ft plans but again these were only copies of copies, so I cannot vouch for the accuracy of them in the firstplace. 3. Timber Shoving. I am really struggeling to get this right, I have attempted this so many times over the past weeks, I just cannot seem to get it right. 4. Printing. The age old problem, ...
... ://www.crassoc.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f =6 &t =415&p =2466&hilit=boxing#p2466...the distance would appear to be around the width of the rail, or about 2.2mm in P-32, which would give more than adequate clearance for the back of the flanges. Any comments? Jim. posted: 5 Nov 2015 14:39 from: Nigel Brown Jim Thinks it's a common problem. I'm into 3mm finescale, and generally move the switch heel at least one sleeper spacing towards the frog. In fact as far as I remember to be on the safe side I use two sleeper spacings (Haven't built any for a bit). Cheers Nigel posted: 5 Nov 2015 15:09 from: Jim Guthrie Nigel Brown wrote: Thinks it's a common problem. I'm into 3mm finescale, and generally move the switch heel at least one sleeper spacing towards the frog. In fact as far as I remember to be on the safe side I use two sleeper spacings (Haven't built any for ...
... bolt chairs were used? Regards Mike posted: 5 Dec 2015 10:09 from: John Shelley mikewturner wrote: Hi guys Firstly apologies as am not really sure of the correct terminology for this type of track but can anyone point me in the right direction for details of block size, spacing etc etc. I assume that standard 2 bolt chairs were used? Regards Mike I'm afraid that I can't help you directly, but I do have an LNER (GE Section) drawing of a proposal to use timber blocks instead of sleepers for siding renewals. Would that be of use or interest? John, from 33820 St Ciers sur Gironde posted: 5 Dec 2015 10:15 from: alan@york Is this the type of track? 2_050723_350000000.jpg undefined posted: 5 Dec 2015 12:14 from: Nigel Brown Came across a statement on RMweb which states that the subject is covered in Ian Rice's book on building finescale track. Don't have the book so can't verify it. Nigel posted: 5 Dec 2015 12:26 from: Matt M. ...
... topic: 1079 Jig Building Trackwork posted: 15 Mar 2010 18:43 from: polybear Hi all, If a length of plain trackwork is made by placing sleepers in a straight jig (based on Templot sleeper spacings) and then attaching one rail (by whatever is your chosen method) to those sleepers, then if that piece of trackwork is removed from the jig and subsequently curved and placed over a curved Templot Template then can anyone tell me if the Sleepers will now match the positions on the curved template assuming: 1. A curve of constant radius, or 2. A transition curve. Many thanks. Brian Tulley. ps. Is this the accepted normal method of producing curved trackwork (either with or without the use of a jig)- i.e. by producing a straight length with one rail fitted, curving it then fitting the second rail? posted: 15 Mar 2010 19:00 from: Dellboy polybear wrote: Hi all, If a length of plain trackwork is made by placing sleepers in a straight jig (based on ...
... forward to the 'Build Track' function. posted: 9 Feb 2011 11:26 from: Martin Wynne Just updating this topic. 2_090617_050000000.png Martin. posted: 13 Feb 2011 09:15 from: polybear Hi Martin, The "Quick Intro Wizard" feature looks excellent and well worth the time and effort IMHO. Hopefully it should save you having to answer so many questions in the future... Kind Regards, Brian Tulley posted: 26 Feb 2011 20:57 from: Martin Wynne I have today changed the default sleeper length from 9ft to 8ft-6in. When I originally set the default 30 years ago, a goodly number of finescale layouts, perhaps even the majority of them, would have called for 9ft sleepers. i.e. pre-grouping layouts, and layouts representing secondary lines, stations and yards during the later "big four" era. Sleeper renewals for running lines are typically every 20 years, but much longer in sidings and yards. Which means 9ft sleepers remained in use for many years after grouping in 1923, and ...
... topic: 2378 SER Trackwork ca 1880 posted: 17 Jan 2014 16:49 from: newport_rod I'm putting a plan together for a friend who's interested in the SER ca 1880, a subject of which I know nothing. For the track work specs I'm guessing something like this: 9' sleepers, Plain track- 12" wide sleepers at rail joints, 10" wide elsewhere Turnouts- 12" wide timbers 30' rail length Straight-cut switches Turnout timbers perpendicular to axis of turnout BH rail Anybody know (or care to conjecture) whether I'm close or not? Rod posted: 17 Jan 2014 16:54 from: Jim Guthrie Rod, A possibility might be interlaced sleepers rather than timbering in the pointwork. Jim. posted: 17 Jan 2014 17:01 from: newport_rod Jim Guthrie wrote: interlaced sleepers Interesting Jim. Not something that I thought about. I thought that interlaced sleepers were more of a northern England/Scottish thing, but I'd be happy to be corrected. Though whether my friend who's got to build the things ...
... topic: 1101 I've found a spare sleeper posted: 11 Apr 2010 11:37 from: Richard Spratt I've found a spare sleeper. Originally it was appearing in the middle of a formation, but I've found it is actually attached somehow to an adjacent track: 68_110636_410000000.png How did it get there? And how do I get rid of it? Attachment: posted: 11 Apr 2010 11:54 from: Jim Guthrie Richard Spratt wrote: I've found a spare sleeper. Originally it was appearing in the middle of a formation, but I've found it is actually attached somehow to an adjacent track: 68_110636_410000000.png How did it get there? And how do I get rid of it? Richard, Might have got there with inadvertantly adding a bonus timber in timber shoving then shortening the main part of the template. You could try calling up timber shoving and getting rid of the oddball sleeper. Jim. Last edited on 11 Apr 2010 11:54 by Jim Guthrie posted: 11 Apr 2010 12:30 from: Richard Spratt Jim Guthrie wrote: ...
52. Shoving sleepers
... topic: 617 Shoving sleepers posted: 5 Nov 2008 03:26 from: Martin Elsworth I have recently produced my first layout using Templot. All my turnouts end up with clashing sleepers. Templates 1&2 in the attached box file show the problem and templates 3&4 show my attempt at resolving it but I don't know if this is correct- how would the big boys have done this in real life? Any advice about shoving sleepers and sorting out clashes would be appreciated. are there any tutorials to look at? Martin Elsworth Attachment: attach_399_617_Timbering_query.box 258 posted: 5 Nov 2008 13:48 from: Martin Wynne Martin Elsworth wrote: I have recently produced my first layout using Templot. All my turnouts end up with clashing sleepers. Templates 1&2 in the attached box file show the problem and templates 3&4 show my attempt at resolving it but I don't know if this is correct- how would the big boys have done this in real life? Hi Martin, Your original templates were nearer to being correct than the ...
... topic: 3134 Interlaced Trackwork posted: 24 Nov 2017 16:17 from: Dave Burman Hi, I've been working on this project for many years but have struggled with this particular track formation. The recent introduction of 'Make Slip' in Templot has at last encouraged me to take it out of the 'too difficult' tray and have another go. I attached the box file showing my version of NER Sleepered turnouts and also a sleepered single slip. This latter formation is entirely my own design as there are to my knowledge no record of NER Sleepered slips. I do have the NERA 1912 facsimile PWay stds and as an NERA member sought help from the Association. Despite a very full response from them, there is no actual drawing available (so please don't take my design as being historically correct). The box file still has some templates with minor flaws but I'm just about at the point (no pun intended) where I can start building. I know there are no catch points on the goods line (the top two) but I'm ...
... topic: 3709 Laser cut Templot track formations posted: 25 Jun 2020 20:45 from: PHP Maybe a little bit controversial but I laser cut Templot plans for people. I start with the regular DXF export from Templot. I take all the available data but only the sleeper and rail portions are needed for laser cutting. 1509_251502_570000000.png I process the file to simplify the rails as we don't want all the rail made into the base. I also make sure the webs between the sleepers is narrower than the rails to ensure they will be invisible once ballasted. This stage takes between 10mins and an hour or so depending on the size of the formation. I usually have to check the plan hasn't got any overlapping sleepers etc. 1509_251504_110000000.jpg I then split the formation up into track panels to fit my wood and ensuring the grain is running vertically with the sleepers as much as possible. 1509_251505_330000000.png A track panel fresh off the laser. 1509_251509_560000000.jpg The formation with panels removed. Ideally laid over the templot print to help with the positioning of the track etc. ...
... topic: 2443 Help with 4 mm scale flat bottom track components please posted: 17 Apr 2014 22:17 from: Hayfield I enjoy building trackwork and recently added to my components stock pile, I have just about got a handle on 2, 3 and 4 bolt bullhead chairs and their uses and now want to do similarly with flatbottom parts I have the following Peco concrete sleepers with fixings (? )Peco Pandrol clipsC&L ST plates Firstly in which date order do these items fit in to Secondly if I use the Peco concrete sleepers and clips, what type of timbers would have been used with what fixings Thirdly what type of sleeper would the Pandrol clips have been used on, and again what type of timbers and fixings would have been used on turnouts The concrete sleepers are 32 mm long, the packet states for use with 00, EM& P4 gauges, are they 8' or 8'6" sleepers I am planning to make a small diorama based on flatbottom trackwork with associated track and lineside equipment, but that's another question for later ...
... topic: 559 C&L Finescale sleeper spacings posted: 16 Sep 2008 07:56 from: Stuart Mitchell HI.. I have some C&L Finescale EM track bases which I hope to use on a small shunting layout but when I print the plan the sleeper don't match. How can I fix this so it all lines up. Also will this also adjust the point sleeper?? Stuart posted: 16 Sep 2008 10:30 from: Martin Wynne Hi Stuart, I have some C&L Finescale EM track bases which I hope to use on a small shunting layout but when I print the plan the sleepers don't match. How can I fix this so it all lines up? You can set up custom spacings for plain track sleepers by going to real> plain track options> rail lengths and sleeper spacings... menu item. There is detailed guide showing how to do it at: http://www.templot.com/martweb/pdf_files/gwr_track_panels.pdf But most folks would want to work the other way -- spacing ...
... is it an attempt to catch an errant wheel before it climbs the platform edge. Am interested to hear the answer. Regards, Matt M. posted: 12 Nov 2014 15:35 from: John Lewis Could this be a fouling bar? They are usually in the 4ft, but apparently they could be outside. John posted: 12 Nov 2014 16:08 from: DerekStuart Tony, I think it is the same level, just set further back. Matt, the ground there is level with the top of the sleepers and the stone wall is set back about 5ft, so I can't see it being that either. 1 sleeper left of the item appearing to be a lubricant reservoir, there looks to be 'something' on the rail head. Not sure what. Perhaps even just a trick of the light. Only other option- it's a check rail ready to be moved into position on the turnout just to the right of the picture and they've left it in a 'safe' place??? That lubricator wasn't there in 1980's- ...
... topic: 2596 Unwanted Sleepers posted: 11 Dec 2014 20:08 from: Paul Scott On my layout plan I have several unwanted sleepers that have appeared. They occur where templates join in the space between the last sleeper on one template and the first on the adjoining template in the gap where there should not be a sleeper. If I try to 'Omit' it on the Shove Sleepers box it does not highlight and will not go away. They have a different number to the other sleepers on the template and if you select it by typing in the number it just says it belongs to another template. I have tried and tried to get rid of them but this problem has got me beat. Can anyone help please. Regards, Paul posted: 11 Dec 2014 20:37 from: Martin Wynne Hi Paul, If the unwanted sleepers won't omit, you may have duplicate templates. Can you post your .box file? For details of how to get the correct sleeper spacing across template boundaries, go to: http://templot.com ...
... track using 'one size fits all' generic track templates. Surely we can do better than this? Well we have and as from the new year, a new era in track construction begins. Boat and aircraft kit manufacturers use lasers to cut components with amazing accuracy- as do model railway kit manufacturers in the US. It doesn't seem to happen here. But we are going to change all that. So for the past month I have been taking prototype track construction plans and converting them into files readable by laser. Forget sleepers, forget turnout timbers. Instead, we offer complete track and turnout bases in laser cut ply. And not just generic versions. You want 44'6" GWR track panels, you can have 'em. LNWR 60'? NER 45'? MR 45'? They are on our workbench. Turnout bases which you can curve like flexitrack, including NER interlaced, MR with 14" timbers where the Midland positioned them- the possibilities are endless- the list is endless. For narrow gauge modellers, we have made a ...
... are pretty good, but it does take a while to get the hang of which bit is which. If you still want copies of the articles, you can usually get back-issues from eBay or WSP at shows, which also avoids any copyright problems! Hope this helps! posted: 24 Jul 2013 13:38 from: Charles Orr Hi Paul Many thanks for that information. I've now put an order in the post for some. Do you have a preferred way of soldering track (to chairs?) to sleepers? Best regards Charles posted: 24 Jul 2013 14:49 from: Paul Boyd Hi Charles Do you have a preferred way of soldering track (to chairs?) to sleepers? Not really! I just position the rail and chair, then solder the lot in one go with plenty of Green Label flux to help the solder flow right through- the etch is designed to help the solder flow. One tip I picked up here was to varnish the templates before trackbuilding- you can then wash the whole lot under ...
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