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... topic: 699 Merseyside 3rd Rail Electrics posted: 17 Jan 2009 13:18 from: David Catton Hi, I'm a newbee to this list but Martin encouraged me to post this query. Does anyone know the dimensions of the sleepers used by BR LMR in the 1950s/1060s for the Merseyside area third rail electric stock? Contemporary (1950s/1060s) photos (a poor quality scan of one taken from a book is attached) confirm that asymmetric sleepers were in use in the period I am interested in but it appears that the dimensions were almost certainly different from the sleepers used by Southern Railway and presumably by BR Southern Region and currently (no pun intended!) .Any help with this would be much appreciated- or even a pointer to a relevant source of accurate information so that the Templot scheming of my proposed layout can be completed as accurately as possible.Thanks in anticipation,David Catton Attachment: attach_459_699_track001.jpg 873 posted: 19 Feb 2009 22:35 from: David Burton David I have asked several friends who work in railway civil engineering for ...
... topic: 387 P4 Track Company system posted: 27 Mar 2008 15:56 from: Templot User Does anyone have any comments about the P4 track company system with chairs and pips on the sleepers, is it easy to use, is it accurate. I have built track with plastic chairs on ply sleepers which I like, so can the chairs be used in conjunction with this rather than using the plastic sleepers which I would prefer not to do. Andrew Shillito posted: 27 Mar 2008 20:20 from: Alan Turner Templot User wrote: Does anyone have any comments about the P4 track company system with chairs and pips on the sleepers, is it easy to use, is it accurate. I have built track with plastic chairs on ply sleepers which I like, so can the chairs be used in conjunction with this rather than using the plastic sleepers which I would prefer not to do. Andrew Shillito You can buy wood sleepers from P4 Track as well as wood crossing timbers. However they are 1.6mm thick (to match their plastic) ...
... can anyone tell me how common was the use of these chairs (S1J joint rail chairs) on the railways please posted: 24 Sep 2019 19:18 from: Rob Manchester John, My understanding is that S1J chairs were used on 12" joint timbers at the ends of each track panel. The S1J is 10" wide rather than the 8" of the standard S1. Rob posted: 24 Sep 2019 20:25 from: Martin Wynne Hi John, The use of the heavier joint chairs on wider 12" sleepers adjacent to the rail joints at each end of a track panel was common practice in the pre-group period (pre 1921). They were often used in conjunction with shorter 9" 2-hole fishplates so that the joint sleepers could be very close together, typically at 15" centres with only a 3" gap between them. The theory being that strength in the rail support was more important than strength in the fishplate. Generally the theory fell out of favour in the light of experience. Here's a list ...
... topic: 436 Amount of sleepers posted: 15 May 2008 03:14 from: georg.kautzsch Hi all! Can somebody tell me if there is a possibility to find out the amount of sleepers of a ready to build Templot plan classified into lengths of the sleepers? George posted: 15 May 2008 12:51 from: richard_t georg.kautzsch wrote: Hi all! Can somebody tell me if there is a possibility to find out the amount of sleepers of a ready to build Templot plan classified into lengths of the sleepers? George I don't think there is. I was going to write a program that worked it out from a DXF export, but my *real* work has got in the way somewhat. It would output a text/CSV file with the number of sleepers by width and length. Richard. posted: 15 May 2008 15:07 from: Brian W Lewis richard_t wrote: georg.kautzsch wrote: Hi all! Can somebody tell me if there is a possibility to find out the amount of sleepers of a ready to build Templot plan ...
... topic: 928 Creating FB Templates posted: 7 Sep 2009 20:33 from: Mark Leigh Hi Everyone, As a new(ish) user of Templot i have managed to create a P4 Test Track in BH rail with wooden sleepers. Now i need to add some FB Plain Track on concrete sleepers However i don't seem able to do so. I can create FB pointwork. No problems but plain old straight track- No Hope. What am i doing wrong ?? ??? Can't seem to find a link on the Forum, though i'm sure there probably is one!!!! Thanks Mark posted: 7 Sep 2009 21:11 from: Martin Wynne Mark Leigh wrote: Now i need to add some FB Plain Track on concrete sleepers However i don't seem able to do so. I can create FB pointwork. No problems but plain old straight track- No Hope. What am i doing wrong ?? ??? Hi Mark, You posted your message in the "My notes and files" section of Templot ...
... topic: 2829 Dale Junction (OOSF) posted: 21 Jan 2016 17:19 from: PeterD A little background. Previously I have constructed trackwork using copper clad sleepers but now I am building using ply sleepers and chairs. I have found this a real challenge with the small parts to thread on the rails etc. It is not as strong as copper clad and care needs to be taken when moving the trackwork to the railway layout. This led me try and build the track in situ to avoid having to move it. I used foam backed wallpaper as an underlay. I found that this did not provide and absolutely flat surface and any pressure being applied distorted the surface (e.g. when trimming chairs). Things improved after I used the proper adhesive to secure the wallpaper. I am now starting again on the Northern approach but this time I shall assemble the track work on my work bench and transfer it to the layout. I am using balsa cement to secure the sleepers to the template and a firm base to secure the templates.I ...
... topic: 965 Great Eastern Railway templates posted: 27 Oct 2009 01:01 from: Simon Dunkley Hi, Does anyone have the gen that would enable me to produce templates for GER track, both plain (rail lengths and sleeper spacing) and turnouts? From photographs, I have noticed that they had interlaced sleepers between the switches and crossings, but used timbers under these. Some time ago a 1:8 NER interlaced turnout template was made available, but practices differ, althoguh it can be used as a starting point. (Pardon the pun- it was unintentional.) My primary interest is to suit a branchline in the late Edwardian era, so I suspect the practice would be that current some 15-20 years earlier. My sketched out layout plan is based mostly on using 1in7 crossings. Regards, Simon posted: 27 Oct 2009 10:46 from: Martin Wynne Hi Simon, The man to ask for all things GER is Adrian Marks of this parish. You can send him a private message by clicking: http: ...
... topic: 2668 Turnout operating units posted: 3 Apr 2015 20:10 from: madscientist I came across a nice demonstration of turnout building, where the switch blade activation was done by bringing a pin, soldered to the blade, and then run through a slot in the slide chair to a a connector strip immediately underneath the sleeper. Haven't seen this before, but looked very neat and had the advantage that the hole in the baseboard is under a sleeper as hence hidden and no ballast etc can fall down Has any one seen this used in earnest, this particular example was a demonstration unit rathe then installed on a layout Dave posted: 12 Apr 2015 18:03 from: madscientist 97 views and no comments !! posted: 12 Apr 2015 18:09 from: Martin Wynne madscientist wrote: 97 views and no comments !! Which suggests no-one has seen it. How about a link or a picture? regards, Martin. posted: 12 Apr 2015 18:59 from: Trevor Walling Martin Wynne wrote: madscientist wrote ...
... topic: 2247 Track construction posted: 3 Jul 2013 07:17 from: SimonH Hello All I'm looking but perhaps not seeing amongst all the posts an answer to a couple of questions if I may. I model Tasmanian OO 14mm (3'6") and in the past have used copper clad sleepers but now want to go to timber sleepers, 1.6mm ply I think. Tassie railways were base plate and 3 dog spikes, but I can't find any manufacturers of such a thing. C&L do a base plate that's close? but still not quite there. Do any templot users know of any small manufacturers who may have such a thing. I'll be using code 70 flat bottom rail. I'm hoping that tucked away is a manufacturer of narrow gauge stuff. The second questions is about methods of building trackwork. In the past I have run a light bead of PVA down the centre of my templates, stuck the copper clad to the paper, built the track, and then soaked the template of the sleepers. As I am going ...
... : 14 Jul 2013 09:38 from: Dasatcopthorne SimonH wrote: Hi there, So I've discovered that there is a huge difference in building soldered track, to glueing track in place with plastic chairs ect. I seem to have a number of places within each point that I'm not totally conviced are being properly held/supported by the plastic base plates I'm using. Can any body recommend a "how too" publication that might give me some tips please. Cheers Simon Handby Hi Simon. I use plastic chairs on ply sleepers. Where gauge is critical- point blades, crossing V etc- I introduce a rivet or two. Another way is to replace the chair with a piece of 1mm copperclad. Solder to the rail and then superglue to the sleeper. (easier done on a ply sleeper). Dave (in 16.2mm) posted: 14 Jul 2013 11:24 from: Richard_Jones Martin Wynne wrote 106_121039_460000000.jpg What a nice photo of Shrewsbury- now there's inspiration for you.... (if you've got the space!) best ...
... topic: 3041 Counting railchairs posted: 29 Jun 2017 18:06 from: Richard Spratt I know how to get the total sleeper length. Is it possible for Templot to tell me how many railchairs I need for each template? I guess it might be difficult as there are many types of chair, but just a total number would be helpful. Thanks posted: 30 Jun 2017 08:06 from: Phil O For plain track I double the number of sleepers and for S& C I times it by four, this gives a pretty good ball park figure. Phil posted: 1 Jul 2017 22:39 from: Richard Spratt Phil, that's ok, but how do I count sleepers? It's not on the info output. posted: 3 Jul 2017 17:31 from: Phil O Richard In the info box it gives the number of panels of track and the number of sleepers per panel, plus any additional sleepers for a part panel. Thus you times the number of panels by the number of sleepers( a 60 foot ...
72. glueing track
... avoid much of the swelling problem. Tony. posted: 23 Dec 2011 16:04 from: Nigel Brown So far I've not used underlay with the current layout; it's a 1930's GWR station where you wouldn't have much of a ballast shoulder anyway. The track is constructed "off-board" in manageable segments on double-sided tape and then laid in position; the tape is usually good enough to keep it in position until ballasted, although in critical positions I've shoved P**o track pins through the odd sleeper to make sure. For much of the layout I used PVA, but then switched to matte-medium sold by Woodlands Scenics, which does seem quieter. I might try laying templates on the board and building on top of them some time. Reasons putting me off are that track building on the workbench is, I reckon, more comfortable than bending over a baseboard, and, instinctively I'm a bit suspicious of ballasting on top of a paper template. posted: 24 Dec 2011 17:03 from: Ian Allen ...
73. GWR 45 foot
... topic: 3641 GWR 45 foot posted: 23 Apr 2020 16:02 from: rynd2it Hi, I need to create a template for a 45 foot length of GWR bull-head track with the correct sleeper spacings at each end. For some reason I don't seem to be able to achieve this- is there a way to do it? Thanks posted: 23 Apr 2020 16:06 from: Martin Wynne rynd2it wrote: I need to create a template for a 45 foot length of GWR bull-head track with the correct sleeper spacings at each end. For some reason I don't seem to be able to achieve this- is there a way to do it? Hi, Stuart Hince has written a tutorial on setting up custom rail lengths and sleeper spacings in Templot. It's specifically for the GWR: http://templot.com/martweb/pdf_files/gwr_track_panels.pdf cheers, Martin. posted: 23 Apr 2020 16:43 from: rynd2it Martin Wynne wrote: rynd2it wrote: I need to create a template for a 45 foot length ...
... to be commercially available in 4mm. Many Thanks Phil posted: 26 Mar 2010 16:12 from: Jim Guthrie Brian Lewis wrote: Timber Tracks have been selling 14" timbers for quite a while Phil. In 4mm, the product ID is T4PT104. We supply them in 0.8mm or 1.5mm thicknesses. We also supply them in 7mm and I know I cut some for the S Scale Society, so they are also available from them if S Scale is your thing Brian, I looked on your web site for 4mm ply sleepers the other week and could only find what I thought was your plastic products in the 4mm section- didn't think of looking in the Timber Tracks section- thought that was only for your plywood lacework. Could have saved me cutting all my sleepers by hand. Jim. posted: 26 Mar 2010 16:28 from: Brian Lewis Hi Jim, We will cut anything anyone wants. Even cut some HO turnout bases earlier this week. At present, I am cutting a commission for the station at Weymouth- in 7mm ...
... topic: 3003 NBR special chairs posted: 2 Apr 2017 23:30 from: grahamroberts Out walking today, I came across the remains of a quarry siding off the erstwhile Waverley Route (the modern Border Railway), and was interested to find a few unconventionally-shaped NBR bullhead rail chairs dated 1922, still in place on their sleepers. There were several sleepers' worth of these, in left-hand and right-hand patterns: 62_021819_420000000.jpg 62_021820_190000000.jpg Are these chairs possibly for rail-built buffer-stops? (they were close to the end of the siding). If not, what is the wider base-plate for? regards Graham Roberts posted: 3 Apr 2017 00:14 from: Martin Wynne Hi Graham, My guess (purely a guess) is that they are joint chairs. Allowing the rail to be supported as close to the joint as possible while leaving space for the fishplate. If so, and found near the end of a siding they were probably on a second-hand track panel, where connected ...
... template by name, sort group templates, find and group templates by name storage box -- move to top or bottom buttons added, move up/down buttons repeat if held down stored templates now have a fixed ID number in addition to an optional name. The ID number is allocated automatically when templates are stored. This makes it easier to find unnamed templates in the storage box. new gauge menu with additional items in the quick list option to hide the pegging notch generator menu disabled for beginners prototype defaults changed -- sleeper length 8ft-6in, 60ft/25 sleepers plain track, timbering square-on style with ends-in-line total length of track plan templates and timbering shown in the storage box prefix tags can be added to the template name labels to aid group selection functions switch and V-crossings more clearly marked on printed templates new options for the appearance of the fixing peg page outlines on workpad -- default changed to off grid in front of background shapes -- default changed to off printed information page -- default ...
... 12 from: Bob Ellis Hi Paul, What I would like to achieve in the first instance is to produce a track plan for the P4 test track I am building. This will contain four sets of points and one single slip. It needs to represent North Eastern Railway practice c.1910/11 since it will be a dry run for the model of Leyburn station at that date I shall begin building next year when the conversion of my garage into a bespoke railway room has been completed. This means I need points with interlaced sleepers and non-standard switches- standard REA B8s, for example, just will not do. Trust me to make life difficult for myself! I can produce the plain track and shove the timbers to the appropriate places. I am not even thinking about the single slip yet, which I shall not attempt until I have completed the 'easier' parts. Martin was kind enough to produce templates for a couple of sets of points, which enabled me to build a cross-over when I went to Norman Soloman's trackbuilding course ...
78. Timber Staining
... trackbuilding? Model timbers don't always look like wood as the grain, so apparent on the 1:1 railway, is somewhat different. If you are painting track after construction it would be better to use plastic timbers and benefit from easier bonding of the chairs- maybe you don't agree? Thor- What is a suitable soaking time? Does it matter if the tea is PG Tips or Tyhoo- only joking, you may have other brands where you are. Rob Rob, As you may have guessed, I use plastic sleepers and timbers, painted with an acrylic mixture which to my eyes looks right for the purpose. And yes, the bonding is pretty secure. But if you're using timbers I was thinking that maybe acrylics would still work OK. Nigel posted: 23 Mar 2015 09:23 from: wcampbell23 Hi Rob I coloured my timbers after sticking in place on the trackplan- my track was built in situ. I diluted Humbrol paints with white spirit- a mix of black and brown. The dilute paint is simply applied by brush ...
... topic: 1074 To Vee or not to Vee, that is the question posted: 11 Mar 2010 14:25 from: Dellboy Hello I am about to start some point building, initally using copperclad sleepers (a first for me) for the hidden storage sidings and then using riveted sleepers for the rest of the trackwork. Code 75 rail with C&L flexitrack for the plain track. In the dim distant past I built points using rail soldered onto tacks driven in sleepers and then progressed onto the 'new' system of rivet/sleeper construction with whitemetal cosmetic chairs. That dates me a bit! My sequence used to be to set up the main stock rail as one continuous rail for the full length of the point followed by the Vee, then the turnout stock rail, then the wing rails through to the switches with the check rails going in last. For three -way points all the vees would be installed after the first stock rail (starting with the Vee furthest from the switches). Similar approach for diamonds, slips and ...
... topic: 2034 Custom timbering of turnouts posted: 27 Jul 2012 13:25 from: Alan McMillan Hi all I've just created a new custom plain track setting for Swiss Federal Railways CWR and it's just dandy. However when I insert a turnout in the new plain track or use new template (quick set), it comes up with default (presumably GWR) sleeper spacings although the lengths appear to agree with the settings I've defined. Is there any way to get turnouts to take up the spacing settings I've defined by default rather that have me do an awful lot of timber shoving afterwards? Regards Alan Last edited on 27 Jul 2012 13:25 by Alan McMillan posted: 27 Jul 2012 13:55 from: Martin Wynne Alan McMillan wrote: Is there any way to get turnouts to take up the spacing settings I've defined by default rather that have me do an awful lot of timber shoving afterwards? Hi Alan, Yes, use the modify on rebuild function. 1. Have the required settings in the control template. 2. Put ...
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