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101. EM gauge slip
... . Martin Thanks, I am using Google chrome (as I am used to it) as you can see it works fine with Internet Explorer. 982_190343_530000000.jpg Here is a photo of how I gauge the first crossing rail, after doing this check its in gauge with the other stock rail posted: 23 Nov 2014 08:29 from: Hayfield 982_230326_250000000.jpg Rails now fitted and tested with a long wheelbase van, will test next with a loco before fitting the Exactoscale slip and obtuse crossing chairs and anchoring down the central crossing to the sleepers Last edited on 23 Nov 2014 08:30 by Hayfield posted: 26 Nov 2014 07:48 from: Hayfield I thought a couple of images of how I build the obtuse crossings may assist 982_260217_530000000.jpg As you can see I build my turnouts and crossings on tracing paper, and each sleeper is held in place on 2 strips of very thin double sided tape which run the length of the unit. I have attached the chairs to the sleepers on all but the centre 5 sleepers. I build the crossings on C& ...
... topic: 2673 2mm copperclad sleepers. posted: 18 Apr 2015 16:57 from: Nigel Fisher Hi I'm building a layout for a competition launched by our club chairman. I'm looking for a supply of n gauge copperclad sleepers. Anybody know where I can get some? I've tried Marcway in Sheffield and they can't supply, although they are 'sending' me some strip for pointwork they have yet to appear despite promises on the phone. There is a fixed budget for the competition so cannot go joining the 2mmFS club. There would appear to be plentiful supplies of 4mm sleepers but not 2mm. Nigel Fisher posted: 18 Apr 2015 17:48 from: Jim Guthrie Nigel, You might have to look at products from the US- like here http://www.kapplerusa.com/y2k/p -n -ties.htm The problem is that these are to North American standards with 9" wide ties, so might look a bit on the thin side in UK N scale. The price doesn't look too bad and compares favourably with the 2mm Society prices ...
103. GWR Steel Sleepers?
... topic: 3005 GWR Steel Sleepers? posted: 7 Apr 2017 12:18 from: mikewturner 607_070718_010000000.png Hi guy The image is a close up of a train standing in the bay at the Phllweli end of Barmouth station and I wondered if I am right in saying the track has GWR steel sleepers? Regards Mike posted: 7 Apr 2017 19:23 from: Phil O Mike, Definitely steel sleepers, as to origin, sorry I am unable to help. Phil posted: 7 Apr 2017 23:36 from: Tony W Hi Mike. According to Andrew Dow's book, The Railway, the GWR purchased over half a million steel sleepers from GKN with the chairs cast on in the late 1920s for experimental use. It is possible the picture shows some of these. Regards Tony. posted: 17 Apr 2017 08:47 from: rodney_hills Hello, 1. "Steel sleepers" is a topic in the book http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GWR-ENGINEERING-WORK-1928-38-Steam-Rail-Train- ...
... carry on with the rest of the trackwork but I'm having trouble with shoving timbers. I also need to be able to make sure that my nice new A5 turnout fits into the completed plan (including timber position). Its one of two A5 turnouts that make up the engine release crossover. I will be using C&L flexi track for the plain track so there will be some gauge widening transition needed as well, but I would like to model the plain track in the correct length sections with dummy fishplates so the sleeper spacing would need to reflect this. Any helpful suggestions with this would be much appreciated Attachment: attach_2234_2852_New_layout_2016_0 2_21_2220_26.box 210 posted: 3 Mar 2016 20:03 from: Martin Wynne Robin Gristwood wrote: Now I want to carry on with the rest of the trackwork but I'm having trouble with shoving timbers. I also need to be able to make sure that my nice new A5 turnout fits into the completed plan (including timber position). Its one of two A5 turnouts that make up the engine release crossover. I will ...
... topic: 2702 Turnout Cost Comparison posted: 29 May 2015 14:24 from: madscientist following on I did a quick and dirty book comparison, using only C&L pricing using a Templot turnout for a right hand B 5 type turnout all sleepers are 1.6mm thick 1.2 metres of HiNi Bullhead £1.2( assuming you are bulk buying rail) 2.5 strips of 17" long copper clad £2.62 4 strips of 1.6 ply 300mm sleeper strip £0.68 exactoscale 1.6mm turnout sleepers( builds 2 points) £4.25 vero pins costs have been ignored@ 8.50 per 1000 Chairs- plastic c&L 60 plain chairs @4.8p per chair( 500) £2.9 c&l 20 slide chairs £1.71 allows 20 chairs for butchering £0.96 Exactoscale ABC fully functional chairs turnout builds 2 point £4.50 per point Exactoscale Common Crossing chairs( 2 points £4.50 so you can see firstly that ply is now far cheaper then any other method so 90% ply with functional plain chairs+ slide and some copper clad at strong points with cosmetic chairs at common ...
... how to make the Joggle, I havent worked out reliable way to do this( 0.2mm joggle) thanks dave Hello Dave I think my approach to track building maybe considered a bit gung ho so you may want to take this with caution or a pinch of salt! On Yeovil Pen Mill I'm building loose heeled switches and I do separate the switch from the closure rail at the point where they are joined on the the real thing. I say this a bit loosely (sorry) as I often move this joint back one sleeper(toward the crossing) from its intended position to give a touch more clearance that you referred to. And indeed I make the electrical break there rather than in the more usual place near the crossing. To give an engerneering flavour to the proceedings I hinge the the heel on a 10BA bolt that passes through the sleeper into a nut soldered to the underside of the sleeper. It may help to understand what I'm talking about by looking at the first page of my thread on this I'll try to put a link in ...
... topic: 2685 O Gauge track using copperclad sleepers with spacers? posted: 9 May 2015 22:41 from: Templotter Looking for a skills upgrade path from EM copperclad to O gauge (probably 31.5mm gauge) but would like to match the sleeper/rail heights of flexible track without the cost/complication of chairs. Wondering if metal spacers could be soldered to rail and sleeper to produce a sturdy enough turnout to use outdoors for instance. Debs- are you the person to ask about gauges? posted: 10 May 2015 07:48 from: Hayfield If its to match C&L the spacers should be 1 mm thick in 7 mm scale,you could use either metal strip or copperclad strip, both cut into small spacers In 4 mm scale Peco flexi track is not much dearer per meter than 2 lengths of rail. Given Peco track in 7 mm is better than H0/00 track is it worth the effort. With rail at 2.70 per meter £2.20 when bought at 100 lengths at a time) and a yard at ...
... topic: 1357 Concrete Sleeper Spacing posted: 3 Feb 2011 21:26 from: GeoffJones I am currently editing some material on track for the 2mm scale Association. I have plenty of data on prototype track for periods when wooden sleepers were the norm but not for modern track with concrete sleepers. What is the normal spacing for modern track for concrete sleepers with CWR? Am I right in assuming that earlier concrete sleepers with jointed track used the same spacing as for wooden sleepers? Geoff posted: 3 Feb 2011 22:11 from: Rob Manchester Geoff, Take a look at this pdf document :- http://www.rgsonline.co.uk/Railway_Group_Standards/Infrastructure/Railway%20Group%20Standards/GCRT5015%20Iss%201.pdf and refer to section 5.12. This should give you some data to work with. Regards Rob Manchester posted: 4 Feb 2011 14:57 from: GeoffJones Rob Manchester wrote: Geoff, Take a look at this pdf document :- http://www.rgsonline.co.uk/Railway_Group_Standards/Infrastructure/Railway%20Group%20Standards/GCRT5015% ...
... cast crossing: homepage.jpg?type=sn regards, Martin. posted: 26 Jun 2009 09:15 from: davelong Thanks Martin I'll try and join that later. It's hard to tell for me anyway, from the few photos that are available, there's this one from 1989 http://www.flickr.com/photos/16749798@N08/3052875660/sizes/o/ As you've had a look through the rmweb, could I ask whether you believe that the mainline tracks through there in the 80s photos are wooden or concrete sleepers? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f =5 &t =40122&start=100 Thanks again Martin. Dave Last edited on 26 Jun 2009 10:23 by davelong posted: 26 Jun 2009 09:34 from: Martin Wynne davelong wrote: As you've had a look through the rmweb, could I ask whether you believe that the mainline tracks through there in the 80s photos are wooden or concrete sleepers? Hi Dave, Do you mean this picture? file.php?id=69504 I ...
... topic: 2636 7mm scale 1.6mm Wooden Sleepers posted: 15 Feb 2015 22:46 from: Rob Manchester Hello, Does anybody know a source of laser cut 1.6mm thick sleepers and turnout timbers for 7mm scale? C&L used to do them but now only offer them in 3.2mm thickness. Thanks Rob posted: 15 Feb 2015 23:00 from: Martin Wynne Hi Rob, Slaters list plywood sleepers for 7mm scale, but don't say the thickness -- worth a call? http://slatersplastikard.com/accessories/sleepers.php Martin. posted: 15 Feb 2015 23:18 from: Martin Wynne p.s. Rob, The Slater's 7mm track-building book says timbers are cut from 1/16" marine ply suitable for outdoor use. 1/16"= 1.6mm. To suit their expensive turned brass rivets, so I doubt they have changed the thickness over the years. Martin. posted: 16 Feb 2015 00:10 from: Rob Manchester Hi Martin, Thank you for the reminder about Slater's. I had forgotten all about ...
111. Centering Sleepers
... topic: 3515 Centering Sleepers posted: 4 Oct 2019 08:59 from: johndon I'm currently drawing up a couple of NER interlaced turnouts for a friend as per the screenshot below: 2828_040358_230000000.jpg Is there a way to ensure that the sleepers on the curved route are centred on the centre line of the curved track? John posted: 4 Oct 2019 13:21 from: Phil O Hi John, How about overlaying a piece of plain track on the curved road. Phil posted: 4 Oct 2019 13:43 from: johndon Excellent idea, thanks Phil. John posted: 4 Oct 2019 16:48 from: Martin Wynne Hi John, Sorry, there is no automatic function to do that. Even if you use a partial plain track template, the sleepers won't be at the required spacing and will need shoving and/or twisting to fit between the main-road sleepers. However, there is a trick you can use to help. If you temporarily add a turnout-side platform, you can adjust the front edge to provide ...
112. Counting sleepers
... topic: 1092 Counting sleepers posted: 1 Apr 2010 00:54 from: Andrew Campbell Since counting sleepers has a lot in common with counting sheep or indeed rivets, I'd like to know if there's a canny way of getting Templot to count the total number of sleepers of a layout designed in Templot? By the same taken, can Templot measure how much rail I'm going to need? I appreciate I'll lose a fair amount of rail in off-cuts making turnouts. Kind regards and happy Easter Andrew Campbell posted: 1 Apr 2010 04:10 from: Martin Wynne Andrew Campbell wrote: Since counting sleepers has a lot in common with counting sheep or indeed rivets, I'd like to know if there's a canny way of getting Templot to count the total number of sleepers of a layout designed in Templot? By the same taken, can Templot measure how much rail I'm going to need? Hi Andrew, Sorry, these functions aren't available at present. See: message 5187 regards, Martin. posted: 2 Apr 2010 12:59 from ...
... timber. I am by no means an expert here and would appreiate any thoughts people have. just want to get it right before I build. As an after thought, I have not built a crossover yet. Would any one have any advice? as apposed to a single turnout. Regards Dave posted: 21 Apr 2010 12:09 from: Nigel Brown Dave Just checked in David Smith's book; as I thought, from the examples in that you don't need to have the rail joints in each road in the same sleeper space. Just count 5 sleepers from the crossing nose in each case. By the way, I think your check rails should span 4 timbers not 5, for the GWR. cheers Nigel posted: 21 Apr 2010 13:12 from: David Nigel Brown wrote: Dave Just checked in David Smith's book; as I thought, from the examples in that you don't need to have the rail joints in each road in the same sleeper space. Just count 5 sleepers from the crossing nose in each case. By the ...
114. Setting out Sleepers
... topic: 1153 Setting out Sleepers posted: 18 Jun 2010 22:34 from: dave turner Hello I find that most of the track combinations that I require cause clashes of sleepers between templates which cannot be simply resolved by rolling sleepers. Clearly the resolution is to use the shove timbers functions, however I have not been able to find a source of information/ set of rules for setting out sleepers prototypically. Can anyone point me in the right direction please? Thanks Dave posted: 19 Jun 2010 11:01 from: Martin Wynne dave turner wrote: I find that most of the track combinations that I require cause clashes of sleepers between templates which cannot be simply resolved by rolling sleepers. Clearly the resolution is to use the shove timbers functions, however I have not been able to find a source of information/ set of rules for setting out sleepers prototypically. Hi Dave, We've been here before. See: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/templot/message/8313 and subsequent discussion. To get that message into the site ...
115. Cutting Rail
... topic: 341 Cutting Rail posted: 19 Feb 2008 23:58 from: BeamEnds Getting desperately short of excuses I'm really going to have to start building track soon. But first, a question: In 0 gauge, with a 6ft radius curve and sleepers securely fixed will cutting a rail to make an isolation gap cause the rail to kink (not the act of cutting it itself), or will it stay put well enough? Cheers Richard Last edited on 19 Feb 2008 23:59 by BeamEnds posted: 20 Feb 2008 02:06 from: Jim Guthrie BeamEnds wrote: Getting desperately short of excuses I'm really going to have to start building track soon. But first, a question: In 0 gauge, with a 6ft radius curve and sleepers securely fixed will cutting a rail to make an isolation gap cause the rail to kink (not the act of cutting it itself), or will it stay put well enough? Cheers Richard Richard, I try to pre-bend 7mm scale rail to the curve required before laying so that ...
... 09:36 from: KeithArmes Hello All, A friend of mine has asked me to Templot Lynton on the Lynton and Barnstable. I'm looking for any info on the Southern's track standards, when they re-laid the L& B. Keith posted: 27 Apr 2020 15:33 from: Matt M. Hi Keith, As nobody has picked this up yet I'll start the ball rolling. Going from 'The Lynton and Barnstaple Railway Measured and Drawn by Stephen Phillips, The post 1926 up grade was 40lbs rail with 12 sleepers for every 30 foot length. 30.5" between centre of sleepers and 12" from centre of sleeper to end of rail. Timber sleepers were 4'-6" x 9.5" x 4.5" but of course they varied. The rail was fixed to the sleepers on a 7" x 7" bearing plate through which the 3/4" dia. bolts protruded onto which the rail clamps were fitted and held in place by 1 1/8" share nuts. The two bolts were diagonally offset, I ...
... topic: 3656 Changing sleeper spacings posted: 3 May 2020 21:43 from: Richard Brummitt Hello, I've spent plenty of hours now reading, watching videos and being told off/helped by Martin for doing things wrong over on RMWeb that it is time I posted here and to try and get past the computer design- print- check- tweak stage to actually building track. style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 238);"I'm now at the point where the rails are in the right places, or so I think and I want to adjust the sleeper spacing and timbering. I'm a GWR modeller and I understand that the way to get the crossings timbers in the correct place is to shove the timbers according to http://templot.com/companion/timber_spacings_overview.php style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 238);" I've been through the GWSG publication written by David Smith again (it's about a decade since I built any track) and made all the notes on ...
... topic: 231 Shove timbers and prototype practice posted: 11 Nov 2007 02:40 from: mattots Hi I'm putting the finishing touches to my Templot track plan and am looking for some guidance on prototype practice regarding the way timber/sleeper positioning was adjusted around turnouts and crossovers etc. I've been looking for photos to use as reference but struggling to find many that show the sleeper positions clearly enough. Matt posted: 11 Nov 2007 03:42 from: Martin Wynne Hi Matt, There are no hard and fast rules, but this thread contains some notes and follow-ups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/templot/message/8313 If you install Microsoft Virtual Earth and use the "Bird's Eye View" option (where available) and then zoom in to the maximum extent available, it's possible to see some of the timbering detail. Generally it's too fuzzy to be very useful, but you might strike lucky and find a location where the light is just right to see the timber positions clearly. For some modern "timbering ...
... where i am and what i have up til now: Yes all locomotives will be live steam and battery operating. I am still in the process of making tracks and have 2 "unfinished" locos. The Green arrow and a t3 loc. But no rolling stock yet. For simple track work ca 75 meters strait and some curves. Thanks again Martin to show me that test for the curves, saved me a big disaster and redoing a lot of work. I have made jigs to make a lot of very good sleepers/ties very fast and accurate, probably 8500/9000 pieces in 6 or 7 hours of time Jigs for some curves (300 cm 320 cm and 200 cm radii) and strait ones, i am able to make, if i want: 25 to 30 meters a day for not even 1 euro per meter, incl wood and putty.Jigs for track are very easy to make, dont forget to mirror! Learning some extra technical English related to this hobby If it would be appreciated i can make some topics about what ...
120. Dock Road
... topic: 1260 Dock Road posted: 2 Oct 2010 18:05 from: phileakins A while ago I introduced a design for Blue Town, base on Sheerness Dockyard post- 1883 track plan. Having thought long and hard I have decided to go back a few years to a simpler layout (no tandem points!) which is attached for your comments please. The main line is laid to the LCDR standard track for the period to 1882 with 21 foot rails with 8 sleepers per length. However, the branch opened in 1860 using 21 foot rails but only 6 sleepers per length and I have retained this track in the sidings. I have rather guessed how the points might have appeared but have retained longer sleepers under the crossing for ease of building. Further information much appreciated though. The main line will be covered with 'top ballast' as was normal at the time so the point sleepering (I've used 10in wide sleepers rather than 12in timbers) will not be seen. Until the sketchboard appears.... the loco shed is on ...
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