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... topic: 1272 Sleepers/timbering at track panel joints posted: 15 Oct 2010 20:13 from: wcampbell23 I am trying to find out about the use of wider timbers at the joins in 60 feet standard track panels. I have recently purchased 8'6" scale ply sleepers and the packs include a proportion of 12" timbers, as well as the usual 10" sleepers, for use as end timbers. I would be grateful for any information about the use of differently sized sleepers/timbers at track joints. My own project is based on an ex-Caledonian line in the early 1950s and so any responses directly relating to Caley practice would be helpful. Thanks in anticipation. Bill Campbell. posted: 16 Oct 2010 18:17 from: BeamEnds This lot may be able to help... http://www.crassoc.org.uk/ Cheers Richard posted: 16 Oct 2010 23:08 from: Jim Guthrie BeamEnds wrote: This lot may be able to help... http://www.crassoc.org.uk/ Cheers Richard Richard, Unfortunately, ...
... topic: 1300 Making slips using C&L components posted: 5 Dec 2010 08:22 from: roythebus A bit of advice needed here, having nearly finished my track plan, I've started building a double slip using C&L components in OO gauge. Is it recommended to use PCB sleepers in certain places such as under the K crossings as this would seem a weak spot, and it is difficult keeping things in alignment just using the C&L plastic chairs glued to plastic sleepers. Also, does anyone make a V crossing jig as I have to make about 50 for my layout and to use the ready made C&L units would be rather beyond my pocket! posted: 5 Dec 2010 13:06 from: JFS You can't solder rail directly to PCB sleepers as they will support the rails at a lower height than the chairs. I always use small brass or N/S strips to secure the different bits of rail which comprise the crossings. These can then be secured to the (plywood) sleepers using Exopy ...
... topic: 2241 Move ruler mouse action, and apply in plain track rail lengths posted: 28 Jun 2013 11:05 from: richard_t Just a couple of suggestions whilst I'm trying to reduce the number of sleepers for plain track in a fiddle yard: I know we have mouse actions to move one end or the other of the ruler, but I've found a couple of cases where I wanted the ruler to be a "set" length, but I wanted to move it elsewhere. Nothing that can't be done another way, I just thought it might be useful. Could we have a "apply" button in the "plain track rail lengths and sleeper spacings window" that would apply the current setting, but not close the window? I must admit I'm being lazy here and not working out the sleeper spacing (again for a fiddle yard), and just trying different settings before settling on one. It would just save a couple of clicks. If I was being really lazy, I'd ask for a plain track option, where ...
... topic: 1815 Altering default sleeper spacing posted: 31 Jan 2012 18:21 from: Nigel Brown Attempting to create custom settings for straight track panels, I think I've found a flaw. If I set the distance from the rail end to the first sleeper to 0, then the sleepers all disappear. If I set the distance to something pretty small like 0.5", but not 0, then it's OK. Nigel Last edited on 31 Jan 2012 18:21 by Nigel Brown posted: 31 Jan 2012 18:51 from: Martin Wynne Nigel Brown wrote: Attempting to create custom settings for straight track panels, I think I've found a flaw. If I set the distance from the rail end to the first sleeper to 0, then the sleepers all disappear. Hi Nigel, Entering a 0 terminates the list of spacings, so that is working correctly. What are you trying to do? For CWR, enter the rail length equal to the timber spacing, set the first timber at half that spacing, the second timber at 0 ...
125. Track Jig
... topic: 2459 Track Jig posted: 15 May 2014 22:18 from: Len Cattley I have been trying to design a 60' track jig so I need to know the distance between the sleepers so I can make some spacers, I have been sent this guide to help but is it correct? Len Attachment: attach_1851_2459_Sleeper_spacing_c hart.jpg 216 posted: 16 May 2014 04:08 from: Martin Wynne Len Cattley wrote: I have been trying to design a 60' track jig so I need to know the distance between the sleepers so I can make some spacers, I have been sent this guide to help but is it correct? Hi Len, Yes, that table is from BRT3 of 1964, page 54. It shows the spacings for traditional jointed track with timber sleepers for the BR post-nationalization era. The table shows centre-to-centre dimensions, so to create spacers for a jig you need to subtract 10" (the width of a sleeper) from each dimension. Modern concrete-sleepered CWR (long-welded ...
... stock I've made. Circumstances decree that Soddingham-under-Piddle is going to have to shrink somewhat into an 11' x 2 plank. As I need to keep an eye on the pennies and actually have some time to make things, can I ask if, in addition to Martin's 7mm 'standard' Peco points, anyone has templates for the new curved points, the double slip and diamond. As long as they take up the same space, so to speak, that will do, I'm not looking to match the sleeper spacing and such, just have the rail ends in the right place and pointing the right way. May I also ask if there is a purveyor of the above items in kit form with FB rail (not copper clad sleepers)? And finally, if I do go s/h Peco route, is it possible to remove the 'bent' sleeper without risking the geometry going all wobbly. I notice Peco have taken their product list off their web site, or at least I can't find it. Seems a bit ...
127. Newbie - Chair Types
... posted: 4 Aug 2010 10:46 from: Nigel Brown Hi Greg Do you really want to do that? You can buy code 75 flex track from suppliers such as C& L which is much closer to prototype dimensions, and hence to Templot, which will look much better when finished. You can also buy point kits which will provide chairs and information on how to use them. You could of course construct PCB pointwork and add cosmetic chairs; personally I've found that approach a bit tedious and would suggest using plastic sleepers as per the above kits, or ply sleepers, with the chairs glued to the sleepers. Cheers Nigel posted: 4 Aug 2010 11:08 from: grog_polymer My chosen track standard is OO-SF. This was selected to allow fellow BRMA members to bring their RTR stock and run it at my place but not suffer the horrendous running that comes with RTR pointwork with massive flangeways. There will be imperceivable change in gauge where OO-SF P+ C meets Peco flex from a gauge perspective. Building some PCB ...
... topic: 1308 Max unsupported rail length posted: 16 Dec 2010 12:39 from: richard_t Hello I wondered if there was a maximum length of rail that was permitted without support from a chair and sleeper/timber? I've got a few complex junctions that I'm shoving timbers around but I keep ending up with biggish gaps between them. TIA. edit: Company is CLC (according to the plans I have the LMS took over the infrastructure). Bullhead practice from the 1930s. Last edited on 16 Dec 2010 13:48 by richard_t posted: 17 Dec 2010 07:42 from: Jim Guthrie richard_t wrote: Hello I wondered if there was a maximum length of rail that was permitted without support from a chair and sleeper/timber? I've got a few complex junctions that I'm shoving timbers around but I keep ending up with biggish gaps between them. TIA. edit: Company is CLC (according to the plans I have the LMS took over the infrastructure). Bullhead practice from the 1930s. Richard, The widest pitch of sleepering ...
... by getting the scruff release file attached at: topic 3499- message 27772 Instructions for installing it at: topic 3499- message 27782 cheers, Martin. posted: 22 Sep 2019 12:19 from: Jason Johnson Hi Martin, Thanks very much, that explains that and will have a look later tonight. I'll try the pdf export too, would you know why when it's exported as a cad file it scales up slightly? I was playing about and noticed the cad option which I then tried to use to cut the sleepers on a laser cutter. Unfortunately they didn't match the printed template. Sorted by scaling down slightly though. posted: 22 Sep 2019 13:08 from: Martin Wynne Jason Johnson wrote: I'll try the pdf export too, would you know why when it's exported as a cad file it scales up slightly? I was playing about and noticed the cad option which I then tried to use to cut the sleepers on a laser cutter. Unfortunately they didn't match the printed template. Sorted by scaling down slightly though. Hi ...
... topic: 1802 Some basic advice on parts to build a double/single slip in 00-SF posted: 22 Jan 2012 11:49 from: PeterD Chairs I have now obtained plastic chairs for standard trackwork and the brass crossing nose chairs. These will be assembled on ply sleepers (already bought in strips). I am missing check rail chairs. Can anyone help with these please? Do I need any other specialised chairs in the construction? Tiebars I have seen that Borgrail offer tiebars but I am not sure about how these are fitted. Can anyone help me with this? Track gauges What would be the minimum set of gauges to use in the construction of the slips? 00-SF Gauge considerations I am aware that 00-SF reduces the track gauge and therefore gauge widening on curves must be considered. I am using exactoscale track on the plain track sections and therefore my questions are based on template trackwork only. Does Templot allow for automatic gauge widening in the template? What is the minimum curve on 00-SF to ...
... re-read the notes for this diagram.) For the straight turnout, I *think* I have the ties correct except for the lead-in ties, J1 and J2. I think I have the lengths of J1 and J2 correct, but I can't seem to get the spacing correct. What parameter affects this spacing? The timbers (ties) in the switch front are part of the switch, and are set up as part of a custom switch. You can choose whether they should be standard plain track sleepers (normally 10" wide in the UK, but you have probably set something less for narrow-gauge) or turnout timbers (normally 12" wide, but you have probably etc.). You can have up to 5 such ties, and you can set the spacing for each of them individually. The spacings are measured backwards from the blade tips (points). Setting a zero spacing terminates the sequence, so if you want only 2 such ties you would make the third spacing zero. However, the ...
... 21 Aug 2014 07:53 from: Hayfield Sorry I can't seem to edit between photos, nor can I stitch the photos together. Perhaps I should have taken a Panoramic photo In the top photo there is a strange bar between the rails, may be some form of locking mechanism, but why its there? The second and third photo shows the different plate under the crossing nose chair. Upper check rail has 4 2 bolt check chairs and one 4 bolt, lower check rail chairs 4 bolt chairs. Bottom photo shots sleepers of varying lengths Here is a close up or the bar 982_210308_130000000.jpg posted: 21 Aug 2014 08:46 from: Phil O Hi Hayfield There is a probability that the original check chairs cracked due to excessive forces or bad casting and were replaced with what was available. The plate under the nose is the GW standard Slab and Bracket. see this link and scroll down to see a slab and bracket on the ESR. topic 184 Finally the bar is a an adjustable tie bar used to stop rails spreading out of gauge ...
... comes to shoving timbers? As per the image below, the timbers clearly need to be shoved to avoid them hitting each other but what would the convention be, shove the timbers on the top track one way and those on the bottom track the other way until there are no conflicts or, for example, leave the timbers on the top as they are and only shove those on the bottom track? Thanks John 2828_231352_340000000.jpg posted: 23 Oct 2018 19:17 from: Jim Guthrie In this case I would leave the lower sleepers where they are- there should be a fair gap between the sleeper and the turnout timber to allow for ballast to be worked on and packed. I would move the upper sleepers to the right until they fitted between the lower sleepers. This will give a wide-ish gap betweenthe sleeper and the turnout timber, but that wouldn't be too bad. Jim. posted: 23 Oct 2018 19:58 from: Martin Wynne Hi John, The square-on timbering which you are using for the turnout suggests that the ...
... a few minor areas today, after double checking the measurements of the loft space and needing to make a couple of adjustments. I believe all is now ok. Martin- I note you havent commented at all. I hope all is well with you and that I havent upset you in anyway? Your feedback (along with that of everyone else is extremely valued. Im hoping to make a start on building the copper clad storage yard trackwork in early January. I've not done copper-clad before, having kept to wooden sleepers and chairs, so any advice would be welcomed. Cheers Rich posted: 16 Dec 2016 20:56 from: RK Helps if i attach the two new BOX files doesnt it! Upper level- scenic. Still need to learn how to convert diamonds into double slips and set up 3-way points! Rich Attachment: attach_2361_2872_Arksey_ver2_(Scenic) .box 185 posted: 16 Dec 2016 20:58 from: RK Lower level- Storage Yard I am aware the 'Y' point at the very bottom right is ...
... the crossing angle visually using the F5 mouse action. See this video: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/startup/startup_em.html The turnout size shows in the blue bar on the information panel. regards, Martin. posted: 21 Dec 2010 13:55 from: RedgateModels Thanks Martin, bit of a steep learning curve today, but I've got there. Now, next question, if it's possible. I have built an A4 LH from a Waverley kit that does not have the last two long sleepers beyond the V, so I'm going to have effectively stright track connected sooner than the standard template would. Can I mod my template to remove these sleepers and shorten the rails, to make a dead copy of the Waverley template? posted: 21 Dec 2010 17:50 from: Martin Wynne RedgateModels wrote: Can I mod my template to remove these sleepers and shorten the rails, to make a dead copy of the Waverley template? Hi Ian, Press F4 and use the mouse action to shorten the template to whatever ...
... topic: 1176 interlaced sleepers on a 3-way turnout posted: 24 Jul 2010 11:40 from: Mike Waldron Has anyone produced a 3 way turnout with interlaced sleepers? Apparently they were fashionable in the early days of the LB&SCR. Would value any help possible Mike Last edited on 24 Jul 2010 11:53 by Mike Waldron posted: 26 Jul 2010 10:23 from: Mike Waldron I have just been running the 3 way Tandem turnout video- which is great- but I have not quite worked out how to get to the starting point- namely to being with both turnouts stripped of their central timbers. Added to which, I am working with interlaced sleepers instead of some of the timbers- LBSCR pre 1900 practise. I suspect that the timbers left out are the ones I will be interlacing- from the rear of the switches to the 4 timbers that the crossing and check rails are set on. It's just getting to that stage I'm not sure of. The rest I can work out from the video. ...
... how I do droppers might be helpful so here goes (Other dropper based options are available!) Right then requirements before we start. each rail or rail assembly must have 2 droppers to the power supply if the solder joint between the rail and the dropper were to fail then the dropper must not be able to fall through the baseboards the rail must not be secured to droppers at both ends so that its free to slide in the chairs it has to be quick and simple droppers%20a.jpg Stage 1 comes when laying the sleepers as consideration need to be given as to where the droppers are going to be. As I use plastic sleepers I use copperclad for those than need droppers- if you use wood then you can probably stick with wood throughout. The sleeper marked A is not for power droppers but for droppers that hold the stock rail in place. The slide chairs in this area dont actually hold the rail. droppers%20b.jpg Each sleeper is drilled and a brass lacemakers pin dropped through. Where there are 4 droppers together this provides an ...
138. Sleeper spacing
... topic: 2435 Sleeper spacing posted: 1 Apr 2014 16:05 from: PaulTownsend Is it possible to globally change sleeper spacings and rail length in all background templates or can this only be done on individual templates by making each the control in turn? I have 130 to do posted: 1 Apr 2014 21:14 from: Martin Wynne PaulTownsend wrote: Is it possible to globally change sleeper spacings and rail length in all background templates or can this only be done on individual templates by making each the control in turn? I have 130 to do Hi Paul, Yes, use the modify on rebuild functions. 2_011611_210000000.png Set up the required settings on the control template and then on the storage box do this: 1. options> modify on rebuild> timbering+ lengths as the control template menu item. 2. box> rebuild all background menu item, or group> rebuild group menu item. 3. options> modify on rebuild> timbering+ lengths as stored menu item. N.B. restoring the setting as 3. is essential after ...
... Hi Roger, Glad you are making progress. See also: topic 3752 cheers, Martin. posted: 21 Nov 2020 13:01 from: Roger Bristow Hi Martin, Having spent sometime getting a little more confident, and thereby enjoyment in using Templot to plan my triangle out with double junctions, I now want to gain experience with making a turnout. It will be the first ever for me as I've purchased all the others ready made! I'm starting with a 5 metre radius turnout kit from Cliff Barker. The moulded sleepers have a standard size separator bar that gives a fixed gap (22.5mm) between sleeper centres as there is a clip that fixes into the next sleeper, this is to aid assembly. Whilst I could cut them all off (which I will have to do when I get into the more complex formations) I would like to retain them and change the template to print out with a standard sleeper spacing. I've spent some time creating a custom turnout but still can't find a way to specify a constant sleeper gap over the ...
140. My First Points
... bar- it's not wildly out of scale, and cost next to nothing. The ramblings of an idiot about building these points can be found at: Soddingham Track Cheers Richard Last edited on 30 Jan 2011 13:27 by BeamEnds posted: 30 Jan 2011 13:38 from: JFS Hello Richard, It looks very nice! I like the planing of the wing and checkrail ends. Just a couple of small concerns- are you sure that the check rails are long enough? I would have expected them to cover 5 sleepers rather than just three. Also, it looks like you have taken both the point and the splice rails to the point of the vee, whereas on the prototype, the blunt nose was formed entirely in the point rail as per this illustration from Martin... gallery/2 /thumbs/2_201959_350000000.gif Good Luck, Howard posted: 30 Jan 2011 13:46 from: JFS Sorry, did not link the image correctly... gallery/2 /original/2_201959_350000000.gif Also this example from David R gallery/ ...
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