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... topic: 2823 Track bed Width posted: 18 Jan 2016 07:52 from: Gordon S Is it possible to lock the trackbed width to a specific dimension? I have double track width changing from 44.47mm on straight track to 50mm on curve track to avoid long wheelbase vehicles clashing. I've only just appreciated that the track bed width is a function of the track centres and changes as the track centres change. Setting trackbed width at 90mm gives an overall width of 140mm when using 50mm track centres. Reducing that to 44.67mm track centres now means the trackbed is only 134.67mm wide. When building an 'open plan' layout with dedicated trackbed rather than a flat baseboard, it would be useful to set double track trackbed as a fixed dimension for continuity purposes throughout the layout. posted: 18 Jan 2016 08:25 from: Martin Wynne Gordon S wrote: I've only just appreciated that the track bed width is a function of the track centres and changes as the track centres change. Setting trackbed width at 90mm gives an overall width of 140mm when using ...
... of the three dimensional nature of my plans, I will always need to load several levels at once to see if there are clashes with board cross frames or Tortoise motors with lower levels. I've done this in the past by loading the whole plan and toggling sections on and off, before saving the whole plan as a new version. Having the file name on the print will be a huge help, so many thanks for adding that info. Right now I have two versions on the go of a revised track layout and trackbed templates. Once they are printed off and stuck onto ply, it then becomes impossible to tell which is which, so adding file names will resolve that problem. I'm sure none of this will be an issue once I've managed to re programme my brain and erase 30 years of working on Windows. Of course I had to do that 3 years ago when I went to a Mac, so know just how long that will take....:-) posted: 13 Dec 2015 16:02 from: ...
... topic: 1005 Trackbed edges posted: 8 Jan 2010 10:13 from: Martin Wynne Gordon S of this parish has posted on RMweb about using Templot to cut out the trackbed for open-top baseboard construction: Eastwood Town- Update That's brilliant Gordon, thanks for posting it. But there's no need to mark out the trackbed edges yourself -- Templot will draw them for you. Here's a bit of printed template showing the result: 2_080442_440000000.png As you can see, trackbed edges apply to plain track and turnout main roads only. Templot is not too intelligent about this and leaves you to mark the turnout-road side yourself and scribble out any unwanted overlapping marks before cutting. But it's still a lot quicker than marking all the edges yourself. There's rather more to this than meets the eye -- here are the full Help notes from Templot. In particular note the trick via DXF to get the trackbed edges as part of your baseboard outlines in the background shapes:____ Trackbed Width If you are using open-top ...
... , mine had to travel a third of the way round the World Mine travelled further -- the server is in Ohio. You are closer. Martin. posted: 25 Jan 2016 21:51 from: Martin Wynne Gordon S wrote: Thanks Martin, I'd looked everywhere... Hi Gordon, This is where to find the mouse action: 2_251650_140000000.png regards, Martin. posted: 25 Jan 2016 21:52 from: Gordon S Tried Andrew's centre line, but of course that won't work where you want to use trackbed edges as it will recognise the centre line as double track and space out the trackbed edge accordingly. I set the adjacent centre line at 35mm and then a trackbed width of 90mm. Instead on giving a 90mm width for a single track and a clearance line of 35mm, it just set the trackbed width at 125mm (90+ 25mm). Of course if we had the option to set a trackbed width that stayed constant.... Whilst on the subject of trackbed width, Martin, when I'm using 2.13A ...
... topic: 3034 Trackbed edges posted: 2 Jun 2017 08:16 from: Phil O Hi Martin Would it be possible to have adjustable start and ends to the Trackbed Edges as there is with the Platforms. Many Thanks Phil posted: 2 Jun 2017 11:43 from: Martin Wynne Phil O wrote: Would it be possible to have adjustable start and ends to the Trackbed Edges as there is with the Platforms. Hi Phil, Yes, that should be possible. I will have a look at doing it. Thanks for the suggestion. regards, Martin. posted: 2 Jun 2017 14:24 from: Phil O Thanks Martin. posted: 6 Jun 2017 12:40 from: Richard Spratt It would also be useful for turnouts off the main line to a siding or loop. Thanks posted: 7 Sep 2017 09:11 from: Martin Wynne Phil O wrote: Would it be possible to have adjustable start and ends to the Trackbed Edges as there is with the Platforms. Hi Phil, This is now included in the ...
... topic: 2083 Trackbed edge posted: 17 Oct 2012 20:32 from: Ray Hughes Looking at Barry Norman's book the (4mm) distance from track centre line to trackbed edge is 31mm which seems to be about the default setting for Templot. However, Barry's measurement includes 9mm for the cess. The trackbed edge is ideal for marking how close the scenery can encroach on the track. Is there an easy way to mark the edge of the ballast shoulder- i.e. where the underlay edge should be, without re-printing all the templates with an amended trackbed edge distance (to exclude the cess)? A search for trackbed edge, cess and ballast shoulder couldn't offer any guidance. Ray Last edited on 17 Oct 2012 20:33 by Ray Hughes posted: 17 Oct 2012 22:11 from: Martin Wynne Hi Ray, Ballast shoulders and cess are not directly supported at present. The trackbed edges function is intended to create a guide line for cutting open-top baseboards, rather than anything based on the prototype. A proper ...
... along the control template additional top tool buttons: "beginner buttons" for the most common mouse actions F9 mouse action adjusts V-crossing angle only, F10 adjusts K-crossing angle only There is a new adjustable option and CTRL+ F12 mouse action for the turnout-road exit, and the turnout road options have been moved from the do menu to the geometry menu support for gaunt turnouts and gauntletted track a dummy vehicle can be placed on the control template and adjusted to check and measure running clearances notch on intersection functions trackbed edges are now template-specific and saved in BOX file trackbed edges can now show ballast edge and cess program preferences can be saved across sessions new file viewer function to browse saved template data .box files rollback register (undo/ re-do changes) now includes template name and memo low-memory mode removed on-screen refresh mode removed startup dialogs simplified storage box searching -- find template by name, sort group templates, find and group templates by name storage box -- move to top or bottom buttons added ...
... " to follow the curvature on points). Maybe there is a better way to do this. Howard. posted: 21 Apr 2013 12:30 from: Martin Wynne Howard wrote: I am using "platforms" along the edges of track to work out the width of ballast needed so I can cut the cork underlay to size. (This also explains why I wanted "platforms" to follow the curvature on points). Maybe there is a better way to do this. Hi Howard, You can use the trackbed edges function for that -- geometry>? trackbed- help menu item. It was recently extended to include a cess function for the ballast edges. However, they still can't follow the diverging side of a turnout*. You need to use the method which I explained for that. Click geometry> trackbed width... menu item, geometry> add trackbed edge and modify group to match, etc., as required: 2_210740_050000000.png trackbed/ ballast+ cess: The trackbed edges function can now be set to ...
... spacing different in shunting yards? What gap do people leave for semaphore signals etc. 3) part of his layout will be a double track going under another pair of tracks. I don't think there is anyway to show gradients so is it just a case of letting the lines crossover each other? Is there any suggested or preferred way of doing this or doesn't it matter? 4) I see from another topic on here that baseboards can be shown, how can curved boards be shown? Also we will cut out the trackbed from plywood when we've got it sorted. Is tee away to show an outline of the extent of the 'live railway' ie a foot either size of the sleeper ends, so that we cut the ply right? 5) My Friend places components on the plan by using the shift and snap option. Is that the best way? Thanks in advance for any help/thoughts. Mike posted: 21 Feb 2020 04:14 from: Martin Wynne Mike Kynaston wrote: 1) when drawing double track curves and using ...
... got to do some timber nudging now. I seem to have forgotten where the option is to add where the ballast shoulder should be? Is there an easy way to apply it to all the track? Cheers Comes under geometry- you have to group all the templates first. Attachment: attach_2449_3030_high_road_2017_06 _11_1233_16.box 307 11 Jun 2017 12:35 from: Martin Wynne Michael Henfrey wrote: I seem to have forgotten where the option is to add where the ballast shoulder should be? Hi Michael, Menu items: 1. geometry> trackbed edges> trackbed intent> ballast edge+ cess 2. geometry> trackbed edges> add trackbed edge TS/ MS That sets the control template. Is there an easy way to apply it to all the track? geometry> trackbed edges> modify group to match More info: geometry> trackbed edges>? trackbed- help regards, Martin. posted: 11 Jun 2017 12:41 from: Michael Henfrey Thanks posted: 12 Jun 2017 17:24 from: Michael Henfrey all the timbers have been nudged I think ...
... Hi Gordon, main> enable generator menu Just turn it back on when you want it. I greyed it out to prevent beginners using it as part of their track design, and then wondering why the settings don't get saved. You can't win. Martin. posted: 2 Dec 2011 10:02 from: Gordon S That explains a lot Martin. Thanks! posted: 2 Dec 2011 10:16 from: Gordon S I must be going daft. I've enabled the generator in the TDV, but the option for trackbed widths in the generator settings menu is not there. Has this been removed or moved elsewhere? posted: 2 Dec 2011 10:58 from: Martin Wynne Gordon S wrote: I must be going daft. I've enabled the generator in the TDV, but the option for trackbed widths in the generator settings menu is not there. Has this been removed or moved elsewhere? Hi Gordon, You have read through the change notes for TDV? The trackbed edge settings are now specific to each template and saved in the .box ...
... topic: 3653 trackbed edges mix-up posted: 2 May 2020 20:21 from: David Baillie I'm sure this question has a one line answer! Somewhere during playing around with the track bed edges function, a set of red dotted parallel lines appeared on the template [see attached image]. When this prints the area between the red dotted lines is blank. I've tried every which way to find a way of removing them but the solution still escapes me!A quick explanation would be very much appreciated. I should say I'm working on a Mac using Crossover- I hope this is not a factor? Thanks Dave3658_021521_160000000.png posted: 2 May 2020 20:41 from: Martin Wynne Hi Dave, Those are the ballast edges and cess lines for a background template. Although for which one is a bit of mystery -- you have one rail only of the control template superimposed over that one? Perhaps you could post your box file here? cheers, Martin. posted: 2 May 2020 21:00 from: David Baillie Hi ...
13. Ballast shoulder
... topic: 2103 Ballast shoulder posted: 7 Nov 2012 17:23 from: John Walker I like the new ballast shoulder and cess features. However the default trackbed width of 105mm seems a bit excessive for the width across the ballast shoulders. It would seem more likely if the cess was intended to be within the trackbed width. I stand to be corrected! posted: 7 Nov 2012 17:53 from: Martin Wynne John Walker wrote: I like the new ballast shoulder and cess features. However the default trackbed width of 105mm seems a bit excessive for the width across the ballast shoulders. Hi John, It is not across the ballast shoulders -- it is the underlying formation width between the cess drains, which defaults to the usual dimension of 15ft for single track. The ballast edge usually extends to the edge of the formation, or it may be a bit narrower. Since the prototype varies so much, it is for the user to set the required dimensions. If you want the line to mark the ballast shoulder top, ...
... 15:19 from: Gordon S Thanks Martin. My latest layout plan is basically several parallel loops with a reverse curve allowing trains to run from a terminus out and back. This corner is where I'm working. The outer single lines are the return loop and are on a 1:100 gradient. The inner double track is at a constant height of 118mm above the datum. This corner consists of three boards that I am working on as a unit, although each are independently removable. I will be building three separate trackbeds, which are vertically independent, but I will need to maintain the track centres. I use groups to highlight the track, but of course the ends of the track do not align themselves to the baseboard sizes (maybe I could do that? .....hmmm) so my trackbed templates have to be cut using the guidance lines Templot provides. When I go to print, group I get a page that says there are 69 pages to cover all the selected group. but of course that goes way beyond the ...
15. Catenary
... who may have difficulty accessing the file link there, I have attached it below. To represent the overhead wires you could use dummy centre-line only templates. Or maybe use the draw with mouse function in the background shapes. There is also a function in the spacing-ring tool to draw background shape lines between specific locations. regards, Martin. Attachment: attach_1201_1657_ole_masts_EM.box 225 posted: 19 Oct 2011 10:36 from: Brunnhaus Thanks for replies up to now! Martin, would it work, if I adjust the trackbed values for N-scale to e.g. 4mm instead 25mm? would the lines be correctly indicated or might occur unexpected reactions? The answer for Robs questions is: My gauge is 9mm european fiNescale. My station with 7 tracks is Rosenheim (Bavaria) from 1858, so no catenary at that time. I designed the trackwork totally through templot and built it on the printed plan with sleepers and flat bottom rails from The 2mm Association. The station is 4m long and 1,4m wide. You find some picture e.g ...
... topic: 2205 TS trackbed edges posted: 25 Apr 2013 12:45 from: Martin Wynne I have modified the trackbed edges function to follow the diverging turnout-side (TS) curve on a turnout. This will make the cutting lines more useful for long turnouts. The change applies to the baseboard cutting line and the ballast+ cess options. open-top baseboard edges: 2_250658_230000003.png 2_071626_150000000.png ballast edge+ cess: 2_250658_220000002.png These edges always follow the full length of a template, so there will still be some conflicts at template boundaries. They are intended as full-size cutting templates rather than a finished drawing. You are expected to scribble on them where necessary. In the next program update. regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Templot talk> TS trackbed edges about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first-time ...
... topic: 3602 Groups and trackbed edges posted: 25 Jan 2020 19:09 from: Gordon S Hi Martin, not a flaw as such, but is there any reason why when using track bed edges, it becomes more difficult to select a piece, or several pieces of track in a group? Clicking on the piece of track often highlights the wrong piece when you have track bed edges in place. I find that you have to click on the actual track bed edge rather than the piece of track itself. Without track bed edges, clicking on the piece of track to group is easy and works as you would expect it to. It's only once you add track bed edges, does it become more difficult, particularly with complex formations. Is there a reason for this? Apologies if I've asked this question before.... posted: 25 Jan 2020 21:08 from: Martin Wynne Gordon S wrote: Hi Martin, not a flaw as such, but is there any reason why when using track bed edges, it ...
... by Gordon S posted: 17 Jun 2011 11:36 from: Martin Wynne Hi Gordon, Thanks for posting your box file. I'm baffled. I've looked closely at it and tried printing the area in question, and I can't find anything wrong. It prints fine here. Although with a different printer my page outlines don't exactly match yours. I'm especially puzzled by your final screen pic with double rail edges. The only thing I can think is that this is related in some way to a generator setting you have for trackbed edges. Unfortunately I can't identify from your pic which actual template that is. Do you think you could post a box file containing only that template? Or all templates displaying the same effect? (select it/them as a group, save group). What happens if you restart Templot and reload the file? p.s. If you are printing lots of pages today, why not download the latest TDV build? Then you can increase the font size for the corner page numbers, which I know you find troublesome ...
... from: Martin Wynne Dear all, The latest Templot update is now available. Version 215a. Your copy of Templot should update automatically if you restart it and follow the instructions. If you have any problems with that, follow the download links on the web site. I will write a bit more about what's in it shortly. regards, Martin. posted: 7 Sep 2017 15:22 from: Martin Wynne Here's a summary of changes in 215a: auto-generated slips: tools> make slip> menu items. trackbed edges adjustable for length: real> trackbed edges... geometry> trackbed edges... menu items. experimental program sizing -- there is a small vertical slider hiding at bottom-right corner of the trackpad: 2_201440_230000000.png This replaces the previous dpi-aware functions which I introduced a couple of versions ago, to provide more control for individual systems and user preferences. Adjust for the most comfortable use on tablets, widescreen monitors, and anything in between. This has no effect on track design, it controls ...
20. glueing track
... itself round the drill and simply peel off the baseboard and rail/ballast surfaces -- a pain in the neck. Hi Allan, Been there, done that. Before drilling, make 4 quick cuts through the film with a sharp craft knife around the hole position, like this:# It takes only a couple of seconds. regards, Martin. posted: 23 Dec 2011 13:45 from: Ed Callaghan Martin does that imply that you'd endorse the use of Copydex rather than PVA? Ref Allan's post, my trackbed will have 3mm closed cell foam on top as shown in the Solomon DVD. I want it to be quiet apart from the DCC loco sounds! posted: 23 Dec 2011 14:06 from: allanferguson Martin is quite right about making cuts around the proposed drilled hole; but I found it a bit of a fiddle. The comment about Copydex remaining flexible while PVA is rigid is also correct. My own (permanent) layout is laid on 6mm foam (cheap camping mat) with flexible adhesives; but I found ...
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