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... sorted on this one. Rob posted: 23 Feb 2011 01:15 from: BruceNordstrand Thanks again Rob. I am am no hurry as this is for future planning and am just seeing if I can do it the way I want... Cheers Bruce posted: 23 Feb 2011 01:40 from: Martin Wynne Hi Bruce, See this video for the "toy train" solution: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/subs_rad.exe However, matters are made rather more complicated by the presence of the transition zone where you want to insert the turnout. To suggest more I need to see more of that track. What and where does it connect to, above your screenshot? The best solution is probably to place a turnout and make the connections, and then do "make transition" further north to link existing tracks. But you didn't show that bit, so I can't advise. When you say you want the "straight" road to connect to the lower track, do you mean the main road of a curved ...
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... am sure this is possible, but I don't see how to do it, Many thanks in advance, and Merry Xmas to all template users, and especially Martin for creating this magnificent, and some what head scratching software. GreenBoy posted: 26 Dec 2012 16:57 from: Jim Guthrie I thought Martin might have been along to give chapter and verse, but the basic way of doing it is to place your straight templates and your curved plain templates where you want them at the required track centres and connect them with transition curves. As you might have guessed, there are many ways to do this. But is is worth messing around with transitions to see what is possible. In fact it is always best to use transitions between straight templates and curves even if you don't have to account for differing centres. Locos and rolling stock run better through the transition and the track looks better as well. Jim. posted: 26 Dec 2012 21:44 from: GreenBoy Thanks for the reply Jim- I wasn't expecting anything for a while being ...
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... topic: 2609 Bug in generating a transition? posted: 7 Jan 2015 23:16 from: Chris Copplestone Hi Martin, The attached screenshot shows the problem. I'm linking a siding to the first turnout of a tandem using the standard procedure with just geometry> track centre-lines only for generating a transition. However after clicking peg/ align tools> make transition curve from current template> try right-hand first, although I get the required transition, I also get, as well as the centre-line, the MS running rail? Clicking geometry shows that the template is now normal although there is no timbering or a TS running rail?. When I open the omit rails and joint marks... menu and tick to get the TS running rail, it is out of gauge? Note that I have tidied up the template by lengthening it to join it to the siding and shortening it to just join the turnout. Is this a bug or am I doing something not allowed? Regards Chris Attachment: attach_2034_2609_trackpad_screensh ot_2015_01_07_2327_55.png 374 ...
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... topic: 603 Y turnouts posted: 30 Oct 2008 09:12 from: Raymond Update for Templot2 Please disregard this old topic and instead see this one: topic 2768 This old topic below is retained for reference. The old tutorial for Y turnouts no longer, naturally, matches the latest version of Templot. Am I right in thinking that the "Zero length transition..." option under Transition curves is the correct way to start a Y turnout? Regards Raymond posted: 30 Oct 2008 11:51 from: Martin Wynne Raymond wrote: The old tutorial for Y turnouts no longer, naturally, matches the latest version of Templot. Am I right in thinking that the "Zero length transition..." option under Transition curves is the correct way to start a Y turnout? Hi Raymond, As you noticed, the Symmetrical Y turnouts tutorial is very old and in need of updating. There have been several new features in Templot since then which make these Y turnouts easier. Here's a run through, with the latest changes ...
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... topic: 1986 Tandem turnouts on a transition curve posted: 17 Jun 2012 11:56 from: pointo1d Hi all, Being a NSR devotee (both 1:1& 2mm FS), I've attempted to use the magnificent product of Martins' labours (< /END_GROVEL>) to use to model Leek station. However, I very quickly came to realize that Martins' video (excellent tho' it is </ END_FURTHER_GROVEL>) only really caters for the free-form school of layout design; My problem appeared to be far harder since I'm trying to construct a truly tandem turnout i.e. all turnout roads branch from on the same side of the main road, based on a scanned prototype track plan that has, in total, 7 roads branching from the main line via interlaced tandem turnouts. After much cursing and a modicum of thought, I believe I have the best Fathers Day present- from myself- I came up with the following sequence to generate the overlayed turnouts (and hope it may be of interest/use to ...
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... LCDR was an enigma, yes they understood budgets, but equally, they had no right to put a railway here at all, and no expense was spared on the station frontage. And they built Crystal Palace High Level! Cheers, Howard I think the LCDR used nominally independent companies to further its aims on some projects like the Crystal Palace branch- lots of smaller bubbles, rather than one very large one. Incidentally, how are you planning to draw the diamond crossings, as I thought Templot wouldn't create these automatically on transition curves? Just curious, as I want to learn! posted: 11 Feb 2014 14:59 from: Martin Wynne Ariels Girdle wrote: Incidentally, how are you planning to draw the diamond crossings, as I thought Templot wouldn't create these automatically on transition curves? Hi Ariels Girdle, Not automatically, but it's not difficult to do: Move the peg to the intersection, then geometry> constant radius. Repeat for the other track if it's also a transition. make diamond-crossing align the main road of each ...
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... topic: 1512 Transition Failure posted: posted: 23 May 2011 17:12 from: Alan McMillan Hi Martin I don't know if I've found a bug but I thought I should bring this to your attention as I've created countless transitions in the past but none has ever produced this odd result before. I will attach the BOX file of the offending section of my plan in a separate message but have included here a PNG of what happened. I lined up the straight and curved track in the usual way and used the "make transition curve from the control template" menu item. The result is as shown in the attached PNG where the resulting transition didn't quite make it at its left hand end. Regards Alan Attachment: attach_1079_1512_Transition_Failur e.png 298 23 May 2011 17:12 from: Alan McMillan Box file here Attachment: attach_1080_1512_Transition_Failur e.box 231 posted: 23 May 2011 18:15 from: Martin Wynne Hi Alan, The problem is that both templates you are using contain a slew (with the slew zone end markers way over to the left) ...
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... topic: 1515 Admin: bug warning -- make transition curve posted: 24 May 2011 16:31 from: Martin Wynne There is a bug in the make transition function. If either of the starting templates contains a slew, the program attempts to create a transition curve and fails to produce a correct result. It should warn you about the slew and abort the function. Sorry about that, it will be fixed in the next Pug. Templot can't make transition curves between slewed templates. If a slew is needed, it should be applied after creating the transition curve. Before using the make transition function, please make sure that neither of the templates contains a slew -- geometry> slew (nudge)> cancel slew menu item. regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Templot talk> Admin: bug warning -- make transition curve about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained ...
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... Jun 2016 00:08 from: rodney_hills .Hello, .Here is another way of doing it, no clickety-click over this joint...Photo taken by me 24 Feb 2009 at Plymouth Station...[originally posted on 00-SF Yahoo Group] .regards, Rodney Hills Attachment: attach_2296_2886_FBtoBHjoint_(1) .jpg 520 posted: 6 Jun 2016 15:01 from: Phil O On the ESR at Merryfield Lane halt the turnout is a 109lb flatbottom turnout and all the other track is bullhead so there are 6 transition fish plates there. There are also numerous plain line lift plates to accommodate the various replacements with different amounts of wear. In several locations due to difficulty in obtaining the correct lift plates, I have cut ordinary plates in half and re-welded them together with the amount of lift incorporated as a temporary measure, I believe one or two are still in service. Phil posted: 28 Jun 2016 20:57 from: Michael Woolford If I can at some point I will post a close up of a transition fishplate ...
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... at first sight have a similar effect, but in fact there are significant differences between them. In many situations you can use whichever is the most convenient, but there are other situations where only the right one will do. CTRL+ F6 snake through peg SHIFT+ F9 slide through peg CTRL+ F9 roam along length CTRL+ F5 orbit around radial centre Snake is the most frequently used, and is convenient when you want to move a template along the main-road alignment. If the main-road alignment is a transition curve, the transition alignment is locked to the grid, and the template snakes along it. If the peg is not initially on the main-road centre-line, it is moved there first. Slide is the less frequently used, and employs more complex maths than snake. If the main-road alignment is a transition curve, the transition alignment is locked to the template rather than the grid, and slides through the peg with the template. Slide doesn't require the peg to be on the main-road ...
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... looking for are the modify on rebuild functions. You can update one or a group of background templates to match the control template in various ways. For the timber spacings and sizes for example. Copy the library template into the control template, then see: topic 2435 regards, Martin. posted: 31 Mar 2015 20:43 from: madscientist choices Sorry one last question for today I have set my plain track to suit SMP etc and rail joints are in effect in the middle of two plain sleepers. I notice on transition curves( I'm happy with these now) that it still makes two close sleepers per panel end length Last edited on 31 Mar 2015 20:44 by madscientist posted: 31 Mar 2015 20:49 from: Martin Wynne madscientist wrote: Sorry one last question for today I have set my plain track to suit SMP etc and rail joints are in effect in the middle of two plain sleepers. I notice on transition curves( I'm happy with these now) that it still makes two close sleepers per panel end length Hi ...
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... topic: 3752 finding intersections posted: 30 Aug 2020 17:27 from: Martin Wynne A few days ago Roger asked about a diamond-crossing on a transition curve. So I watched again the video from 2015: http://flashbackconnect.com/Movie.aspx?id=ib65pLfUkgNxFBDqAZSNyA2 It uses the method of finding the intersection by moving the mouse manually along the rails and judging the intersection position on the screen by eye. It struck me as a bit agricultural to be still using such methods after all these years, relying on close hand-eye co-ordination and limited by the screen resolution and rounding effects in the drawn lines on the screen. For a long time we have had the notch on intersection functions: 2_301120_060000000.png which are fine as far as they go. But they are limited to fixed-radius curves, and apply only to plain track and/or the main road of a turnout. They are based on conventional circular geometry, which means they always find two intersections. Resulting in a clunky interface in which Templot asks you ...
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... topic: 1666 Questions about using MS and TS and perceived issue with transition curves. posted: 26 Oct 2011 14:43 from: gsmorris I asked the following in an email relating to anew lock code and Martin rightly asked me to post such questions and points in Templot Club in future. So although I have the answers I need I think it is useful to post the questions and answers up. As they say- ask as others may well have the same issues! HI Martin I have been using the development version a lot recently mostly while traveling and I have come across two come across a few minor things I have found are not unique to the development version. Probably I have not looked deeply into your notes. One:- being the idiosyncratic but useful undo function!! It always seems to go back further than I anticipated. And then I forget which template I am on and end up wiping it from the background. My problem mostly and can live with it as a couple of click in storage box gets you back ...
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... topic: 274 Changing transition marker colours posted: 3 Dec 2007 14:56 from: Andy B Hi All, Is it possible to change the colours of the transition curve markers (start/length) on the current template? (I'm using 0.82d). My problem is that the default colour is white, which is very hard to see against a white background scan. I've found many menus to change the colours of almost anything else in Templot, but I can't find the transition markers! thanks, Andy Last edited on 3 Dec 2007 14:59 by Andy B posted: 3 Dec 2007 15:19 from: Martin Wynne Andy B wrote: Is it possible to change the colours of the transition curve markers (start/length) on the current template? (I'm using 0.82d). Hi Andy, pad> pad current template options> pad current template colours> transition end marks colour... menu item. Finding a colour scheme to work clearly over a background scan is quite tricky. For a normal scan of ...
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... topic: 2001 Transition point markers posted: 2 Jul 2012 22:08 from: dave turner I've just noticed that on my installation of Templot 2 (latest posted version) the transition point markers on transition curves are missing. It's probable that I've accidentally altered a setting somewhere but I've not been able to discover where. Any thoughts? regards Dave posted: 2 Jul 2012 22:16 from: Martin Wynne Hi Dave, Missing where? On the trackpad? On the sketchboard? In image files? On the printed templates? On the DXF exports? There are several options for turning the transition markers off. regards, Martin. posted: 2 Jul 2012 22:22 from: dave turner Hi Martin On the trackpad itself. The marks don't appear as I create a new transition curve. Since they don't appear on previously created curves I either I assume I've altered something inadvertently. Thanks for your response Martin. regards Dave posted: 2 Jul 2012 22:37 from: Ian Allen Dave, Check "Main Enable Generator Menu" then ...
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... topic: 2666 quick question re plain track posted: 1 Apr 2015 20:49 from: madscientist Martin( or others) can I force plain track into a particular angle. Im trying to ensure that when I extend a transition curve( Length) that the track is parallel to the Grid. i.e. if I use <Curve> can I force orientation in angles to the grid as oppose to radius thanks dave posted: 1 Apr 2015 21:13 from: Martin Wynne madscientist wrote: can I force plain track into a particular angle. Im trying to ensure that when I extend a transition curve( Length) that the track is parallel to the Grid. i.e. if I use <Curve> can I force orientation in angles to the grid as oppose to radius Hi Dave, That's not too clear. If you want a transition curve easement to terminate in straight track parallel with the grid, put some straight track there as a dummy template, and then use the make transition functions on it. See: http:/ ...
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... topic: 1812 TDV Transition Alert posted: 29 Jan 2012 10:09 from: Ian Allen Martin, Managed to get a screen shot of the transition error warning I've encountered before on constant radius templates. 1951_290508_330000000.png Ian posted: 31 Jan 2012 17:16 from: Martin Wynne Ian Allen wrote: Managed to get a screen shot of the transition error warning I've encountered before on constant radius templates. Hi Ian, Thanks for the report. This is not a bug, Templot is simply reporting the generator results, as intended. It's not a constant radius template. The alert message refers to the template showing in the storage box, which is clearly a zero-length or very short transition. Please can you click the info button on the storage box for this template and tell me the initial and final radius, and the length of the transition section? Also please can you click the white help bar on the alert message, and tell me the number of terms used in the expansion? Or alternatively attach here your .box file containing this ...
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... topic: 583 Better transition curves. posted: 9 Oct 2008 01:30 from: Richard Spratt I wish that when you make a transition curve, that the two templates used to create the transition are cut back to where they intersect with the transition curve. Also that the transition curve is made the right length to fill the gap between the reduced size starting templates. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> I wish it would...> Better transition curves. about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors. indexing link for search engines back to top of page Please read this important note about copyright: Unless stated otherwise, all the files submitted to this web site are copyright and the property of the respective contributor. You are welcome to use them for your own personal non-commercial purposes, and in your messages ...
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... and looking RichardS Norwich Attachment: attach_2451_3038_Bosmellin_9.box 298 posted: 20 Jun 2017 15:00 from: Martin Wynne Hi Richard, This turnout was mismatched at all 3 boundaries. To fix it without changing your other alignments I used a 9ft-5.6 turnout. Although very short, the contraflexure means the radii remain well within your limits. With a bit more tweaking it could be changed to a more likely prototype 1:5.5 angle. Or with more tweaking to a B-6. 2_200955_080000000.png You have made very little use of transition curves, which gives the design a bit of a train-set look. Also there was a mismatch at the top right. To show what I mean I have introduced 3 transitions (marked yellow bars). You can see that it produces a better "flow" effect -- and also smoother running. .box file below (no other changes). regards, Martin. Attachment: attach_2452_3038_richard_boscarne _mods.box 248 posted: 20 Jun 2017 16:02 from: Martin Wynne Hi Richard, Here is a version with a ...
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... topic: 2132 Transition curve posted: 1 Jan 2013 13:47 from: Phil O Hi Martin I have just been producing a transition curve using a Compaq computer running windows XP and got this result. 38_010839_400000000.png I was attempting to get a transition from the current template to the one underneath when this happened as I could not use the peg align function as the radii of both templates are to close to the same and templot is unable to produce them. I closed Templot down and reopened it again and reloaded my current file and the same crazy track as above was visible, so I clicked on template 32 and deleted the crazy track. Will be going back with a new template to get the transition curve, hopefully! Cheers Phil posted: 1 Jan 2013 14:39 from: Martin Wynne Hi Phil, Thanks for posting. It's a known effect caused by the transition curve being too gentle. For details see: topic 1391 Generally when this happens you know that you could just as easily use a fixed radius curve. regards, Martin ...
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