... topic: 2147 Access violation error posted: 22 Jan 2013 21:35 from: Paul Boyd Hi Martin Er, is Templot 2 supposed to do this? 105_221629_160000000.png 105_221629_440000000.png I had just used the mouse action to move the timber shown in red along a bit. I've attached the box file, but the control template is now on the background, in green. After clicking OK, Templot carried on as normal. I bet this will be one of those like the List index out of bounds torment Attachment: attach_1561_2147_scissors_interlac ed_2013_01_22_2128_00.box 253 posted: 22 Jan 2013 22:03 from: Martin Wynne Paul Boyd wrote: I bet this will be one of those like the List index out of bounds torment Hi Paul, Yes. That was when shoving timbers too. I've just been trying to replicate it here, but I can't. Have you been able to repeat it? Had you been using the sketchboard earlier in the session? I do notice that you are shoving timbers on a template with all rails turned off. That may be significant, although ...