... i run with saved preferences, i get as per attached.Running without saved preferences was OK with the shortcut bar. I then reesaved my preferences and hey presto, all is now OK. Thank you Has it really been 10 years!! I am a lurker, i have read all avidly and learnt a lot. I am currently building a layout on a large templot printout- i just havent felt the need to post any questions until now! Many thanks for all that you have done with templot, it is great! 1588_171654_010000000.jpg Martin Wynne wrote: ikcdab wrote: Hi all, a simple question....i have lost the very handy shortcut bar that appears under the menu at the top of the screen....how do i get it back??Thanks Hi, Welcome to Templot Club. It's been over 10 years since you joined, and good to hear from you for the first time. I think that may be a record. I don't think it's possible to lose the toolbars entirely, but if you have done they should reappear ...