... be separated by 2 or 3 sleepers at most- surely this means that there cannot be sufficient clearance, though perhaps it is "protected" by the ground signal by the blades of 85? Bearing in mind that I have distorted the whole lot by curving it to a ruling radius of 15', do you think there is any more I can do to get the Templot layout to better match the two prototype photos? many thanks for any thoughts best wishes Richard (box file Singleton Final 2_3 further up the thread) 1763_301735_000000000.jpg 1763_301735_340000000.jpg 1763_301742_060000000.jpg Last edited on 1 Nov 2013 12:27 by Richard_Jones posted: 31 Oct 2013 08:59 from: JFS Hi Richard, I'm pretty sure that there is a requirement for a clearance here. Looking at the box diagram, the point leading to the loading dock is worked from the box (lever 15) but the point in rear of that is a hand point, thus, this point is the only means of providing protection for traffic entering the Down Loop against errant shunting movements. But it must ...