... be seen at full size on the image gallery). Now I say extra timbers because, there are 3 or 4 of these B4 timbers sitting on top of each other, all exhibiting the same timber number, and it takes three or four timber omit ions to eliminate them. I don't think I have done anything wrong, as everything else appears to be working fine. It's not a big deal in clearing these extra timbers, but thought it worth a mention just in case. All the best, Brian Nicholls. 1853_241226_210000000.png posted: 24 Nov 2011 18:33 from: Martin Wynne Hi Brian, They are bonus timbers. Click the real> timbering> bonus timbers> remove all menu item. On the previous template(s) you have at some stage added bonus timbers, and then omitted them in the shove timbers settings, instead of removing them from the template. When you do tools> make a new template, any timber shoving is restored. So omitted timber are no longer omitted and become visible again -- unless you ...