... included in the group with the diamond, so why did it get included in the output file? Today I tried the same experiment, with the same items and got the same result, an unwanted template that had not been grouped. See images below: The first image shows the Templot workpad at time of outputting file. The second image shows the resulting DXF file when viewd with a suitable program. Can you please explain what may be going wrong? All the best, Brian Nicholls. Templot Screenshot 1853_250936_210000000.gif DXF Viewer Screenshot 1853_250937_110000000.gif posted: 25 Jan 2012 17:34 from: Martin Wynne Hi Brian, Thanks for reporting it. Could you please post the .box file, as I have been unable to create the problem here. Thanks. regards, Martin. posted: 25 Jan 2012 17:44 from: Martin Wynne p.s. Brian, a thought: You did click selected group only on the DXF dialog, and not on the file export dialog? 2_251242_140000000.png There is a note about that by the DXF button on the file export dialog ...