... branch has to use the main to run around, not so much of an issue maybe as I want to keep it quite countryside based. The other downside is that the goods yard would use the lay-by as a headshunt, so I am wondering if I could get away with using that as a headshunt but also as a lay-by for slow goods trains on occasion? 3446_230619_290000000.png posted: 23 Jul 2017 14:16 from: John Palmer An alternative suggestion, adapted from an earlier version of your plan: 2129_230908_410000000.png Rather than having a facing movement from lie-by into sidings, project forward from lie-by into shunting neck and lay out the sidings as a kickback from the neck. This way, shunting can proceed independently of the recessing of a train in the lie-by. So far as I can see, branch train engines can be released from a train standing in the bay and run round (or go on shed) without having to go onto the main lines at all. Have I missed something? posted ...