... The LNER and the ER of BR from photos and in the later case observation did seem reluctant to used more long timbers than it thought strictly necessary. The picture below is of a Flatbottom D-9 taken around 1960 and only uses long timbers under the special baseplates, the 3 beyond the wing rails, whereas the standard BR practice was to use long timbers up to and including the one beyond the rail joints ala GWR practice. 2151_011202_320000000.jpg Note that the diverging road is Bullhead. Below is a Templot version of it. 2151_011213_250000000.jpg Regards Tony. posted: 1 Mar 2017 19:44 from: Martin Wynne Hi Tony, Here is the FB timbering chart from BRT3. This refers to straight-planed (i.e. semi-curved) switches, so this would be for the original inclined FB-109 replacements for bullhead. You may like to see how this compares with your D-9. 2_011355_290000000.png Comparing this with the standard REA bullhead turnouts in Templot, you will notice that Templot is a bit more generous with timber in places than this ...