... in the bottom right hand corner. I think the five dots in the upper left hand corner could be elements of a 3-D axes indicator. I can reload the dxf file into Turbocad without a problem. The dots are not graphic elements in the file. The second grab is the zoomed in view of the chair. I tried saving a version with the settings you suggested, but the chair is not visible when I view it in eDrawings. I've attached that version (chair3.dxf) to this message. ab 2983_051205_200000000.png 2983_051205_580000000.jpg Attachment: attach_2205_2734_Chair3.dxf 359 posted: 5 Jan 2016 17:22 from: Andrew Barrowman Snap! No clue at all about the junk I'm afraid. I've never even looked in any of the files. posted: 5 Jan 2016 17:28 from: Martin Wynne Andrew Barrowman wrote: No clue at all about the junk I'm afraid. I've never even looked in any of the files. I don't think it is junk, I think it is your 3D data. Many thanks for the second file. Now I can ...