... am not criticising your efforts merely the way you have gone about doing it. Thanks for the clarification. I couldn't decide whether it was ad hominem or humorous. posted: 22 Aug 2020 22:51 from: Trevor Walling Hello Godders, Could you possibly do an English interpretation of your Dutch part please. It would be nice to see how the humour of your reply has continued and translated. trustytrev. posted: 22 Aug 2020 23:59 from: Andrew Barrowman For those who prefer solenoids you might like these. 2983_221847_210000000.jpg It's a Kemtron Switch Machine (made in Japan) in terrifying close-up. They are no longer in production but they have a very nice mechanism and they include contacts to switch frog polarity and two additional changeover switch contacts. They show up for sale here from time to time. Were they sold in the UK, possibly under a different name? Last edited on 23 Aug 2020 00:01 by Andrew Barrowman posted: 23 Aug 2020 00:13 from: Martin Wynne Andrew Barrowman wrote: They show up ...