... book: cvr_track_400px.jpg The spacing-ring tool in Templot is intended for setting/checking clearance between tracks. Clicking the set-ring:> p-s button pre-sets it to the required diameter for 11ft-2in track centres (6ft way) at the current gauge and scale. For EM that means 24.63mm between the rails. For 10ft way you then add on 4ft (16mm) making 40.63mm. There is 6ft way clearance at position 1 on your plan, but clearly a significant conflict at position 2: 2_010919_410000000.png I think that if you increase the the loop line(s) spacing to at least 9ft way from the main lines, this problem will be avoided. I'm sorry I can't do any more Templotting today, so I will have to leave it there. regards, Martin. posted: 1 Nov 2013 20:00 from: JFS Hi Martin, Very sorry we got a bit into an internal discussion there- we both know the real thing! Just to mention that of course, everything you say is spot on ...