... the crossing timbers run up to the vee rail joints, with plain sleepering beyond (unless the real> timbering> exit track setting is changed). In some shorter crossings this causes the 15ft limit to be exceeded in Templot, for example a 1:5 crossing in Templot has the longest timber at 15ft-6in. To confuse the issue, this drawing of a 1:8 BH crossing from BRT3 shows an extra 15ft timber beyond the vee rail joint (and the lengths don't match the FB chart above): 2_011437_560000000.png There was good reason to include all the timber-shoving functions. regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Baffled beginners> Timber shoving about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors. indexing link for search engines back to top of page Please read this important note about copyright: Unless stated ...