... the files. I don't think it is junk, I think it is your 3D data. Many thanks for the second file. Now I can diff the two and discover how to set the DXF version number in the exported file, to match the above "junk". At first sight the two files are very similar. Thanks again, Martin. posted: 6 Jan 2016 00:14 from: Martin Wynne Hi Andy, First signs that this might work. A couple of your chairs in Templot's background shapes: 2_051906_110000000.png Templot wouldn't import your DXF file. But it would after I opened it in my old copy of TurboCAD and saved it again. The first task would seem to be to get some radiused corners on these 2D chairs. There is already a dialog for some chair data -- it has been in Templot for about 15 years and never yet used, see real> chairs/ baseplates> chair/ baseplate data... Click the? info buttons for some notes about each dimension. regards, Martin. posted: ...