... to save the most space. This means putting the ladder on the inside curve with turnouts having contraflexure. In this case that means left-hand turnouts: 2_101312_060000000.png For a fiddle yard we are not concerned with prototype accuracy, we can use whatever geometry produces the optimum result. For these turnouts I used the 1:32 short model switches, with 1:7 V-crossings. This is the result, with your original in white. The roads are a bit longer than yours, but not by very much: 2_101320_100000000.png Over to you. I can post the .box file if you wish? regards, Martin. posted: 10 Dec 2014 20:59 from: Godfrey Earnshaw Thank you Martin, this is what I needed. Give me time to absorb it. I do not think you need to post your .box file, I'm sure I can pick the bones out of it. Cheers and thank you to everyone for their input. Until the next time. Godders Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also ...