... This will bring up a dialogue asking you which timber you want to adjust; take the number from your plan. Hi Nigel, Mike, Ian, Most of the time it's easier just to click on the timber numbers -- this is in version 074b: 2_222255_400000001.png Entering the number via the dialog is intended for situations where you can't see the numbers for some reason. In version 091c the menu item is at real> shove timbers (or just press the comma key), and the dialog looks a bit different: 2_222255_390000000.png Notice there is the additional crab function, and across has been renamed throw. There is also the useful option to add a bonus timber when an extra one is needed. You can also omit all before restoring just a few timbers, which is quicker than omitting a lot of them individually. (Don't use this to create a template without any timbering -- for that use real> timbering> no timbering instead.) regards, Martin. posted: 23 Dec 2010 10:22 from: RedgateModels Thanks Martin, ...