... crossover again. 5. then roam it into the required position with its turnout road aligned with the first turnout (CTRL+ F9 mouse action). Zoom in to see it. There will likely be a slight overlap. 6. if necessary you can adjust the length(s) of the turnout road(s) using the CTRL+ F12 mouse action. regards, Martin. posted: 26 Nov 2017 22:21 from: Martin Wynne p.s. Dave, You have barely any running clearance on those curves: 2_261719_140000000.png The track spacings need widening a fraction. There is a video showing how to do that with the dummy vehicle, see: http://flashbackconnect.com/Movie.aspx?id=5TKjRjhcaeHNM176Xf2xUg2 Martin. posted: 27 Nov 2017 13:45 from: madscientist thanks martin I actually followed the sequence you laid out when I was designing this layout, that is I created two complete ovals representing the Up and Down lines with transition curves( easement to straight) on the curves Then I inserted the turnout and then created a" ...