... richard_t wrote: I think the tools> make ladder crossover menu items are the wrong way around, and perhaps don't work? When I select tools> make ladder crossover> make curviform ladder I get a warning saying that "You are about to make a REGULAR ladder..." and a diamond with regular vees is created. Hi Richard, It is working as intended: 2_271516_210000000.png curviform ladder track in Templot They are the right way round, but it's important to read the notes -- click the white bar: 2_271511_410000000.png Which shows these notes. Note the bit I have marked red -- if you created a regular ladder you must have been starting from a regular V-crossing: Make Ladder A "ladder" track is one which crosses multiple running lines diagonally, comprised of a string of diamond-crossings and/or slips. In Templot a ladder is created by clicking the TOOLS> MAKE LADDER menu item repeatedly, once for each diamond-crossing. This makes it possible to change the adjacent track spacing for each diamond- ...