... . Whether that was Templot or Acrobat I can't say. It should make laying out the templates a lot simpler. John posted: 29 Jan 2016 19:01 from: Martin Wynne johnbirch72 wrote: I can create pages up to 5000mm long. At 6000mm all I got was blank pages. Whether that was Templot or Acrobat I can't say. Hi John, It's not Templot. Here for example is the far end of a PDF page 24000mm (80ft) long (see the grid label). 0 gauge track. 2_291352_100000000.png Displayed instantly in my preferred PDF reader with no problems at all -- PDF XChange Viewer: http://www.tracker-software.com/product/pdf-xchange-viewer But almost certainly your print shop is not using that (unless maybe you are in Canada?). Martin. posted: 29 Jan 2016 20:39 from: johnbirch72 Thanks Martin. PDF-Exchange Viewer showed I could create a 12000mm page which is the print shop limit. It does waste quite a lot of paper doing it that way ...