... into TurboCAD I haven't a clue. For example, why does inserting your file change the 3D lighting? 2_292222_540000000.png Your S1 chairs are all facing the same way here. I think we shall need separate separate Left and Right hand versions (mirrored on Y). These chairs from 2016 seem to be Z-referenced from the underside of the timbers? cheers, Martin. posted: 30 Jul 2018 04:12 from: Martin Wynne That's better -- your file had two dozen lights in it. I deleted them: 2_292311_490000000.png cheers, Martin. posted: 30 Jul 2018 05:36 from: Andrew Barrowman Probably because I don't bother with rendering much. I mainly use wire-frame. posted: 30 Jul 2018 13:00 from: Martin Wynne Andrew Barrowman wrote: Probably because I don't bother with rendering much. I mainly use wire-frame. I am not really using either of them, I'm writing code in Templot. I'm just using the colour rendering to see what Templot has produced. The fact that it is a CAD ...