... It also means I don't have to lean over so much to work on the goods yard! Now the downsides is that anything using the branch has to use the main to run around, not so much of an issue maybe as I want to keep it quite countryside based. The other downside is that the goods yard would use the lay-by as a headshunt, so I am wondering if I could get away with using that as a headshunt but also as a lay-by for slow goods trains on occasion? 3446_230619_290000000.png posted: 23 Jul 2017 14:16 from: John Palmer An alternative suggestion, adapted from an earlier version of your plan: 2129_230908_410000000.png Rather than having a facing movement from lie-by into sidings, project forward from lie-by into shunting neck and lay out the sidings as a kickback from the neck. This way, shunting can proceed independently of the recessing of a train in the lie-by. So far as I can see, branch train engines can be released from a train standing in the bay ...