... in Kiddy. I do remember the was a bit of fuss about calling a pub the Watermill when it was built next to the canal! Anyway thank you for the advice on the timbering. I've since decided that it's going to be set roughly somewhere along the old Dudley route probably just south of Wednesbury. An old LNWR route so would that fit in with the timbering you've mentioned. I've attached an photo believed to be quite early 80s of wednesbury. style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffee"Dave Attachment: attach_410_625_Wednesbury9.jpg 668 posted: 15 Nov 2008 17:39 from: JimH Looking good Dave, Had a look on the RM site as well, the layout certainly seems to have that "Black Country" industrial feel about it. Should give you lots of scope for modelling all of the clutter and detritus that lays about in these kind of places. Concerning: The canal will flow front to back Canals tend not to flow! I remember on the Shropshire Union near to Brewood (at an interesting place called the Avenue locally) ...