... base tiebars. The mounting board for the Tortoises was set a bit below the track base level and the Tortoises were placed on top of this so the linkage lined up with the sub-base tiebars and the bulk of the Tortoise motors was projecting into the space above the track bases and was hidden behind scenery/backscenes. There are other "slow motion" point motors which are much lower profile than the Tortoise and you might want to investigate them if you are pushed for space to fit Tortoises. Jim. Attachment: attach_758_1073_tortoise02.jpg 1630 posted: 13 Mar 2010 15:40 from: MikeTrice Kenneth Beckett wrote: One question does arise and that is why you found it necessary to cut insulating gaps just below the V in the wing rails of the turnout in the first link. Secondly how did you anchor the nickel silver wire when you changed from the Peco track pins on the tiebar for the three way turnout. The Peco pin had a head which would have held it in place, the wire didn't seem to have anything which would serve the ...