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posted: 7 Dec 2008 17:51 from: donald peters
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Hallo, I have returned to Templot after a gap of around 5 years. It has changed widely, much improved. However. As a past user of Templot I was able to slot into many of the changes whilst others took some getting used to (not quite sure that I have actually) What has come glaringly obvious is the continued absence of a User Manual. The system is a tribute to the orignality and brilliance of Martin which in the scope of its facility is truly awesome. I have to add that the use of its power is let down by the absence of any progress in respect to a user friendly guide. A "Templot for Dummies" for want of a simile. Gentle Geometry and Bobble Hat type type aids are essential in their content for the beginner (and senile brains such as myself) but they are discontinuous, individualistic in presentation and hard to collate into a rational aid. Features such as the Function Key template (to me) show an illogical thinking, informative tho' they definately are. When one is busy on a Layout Plan (I hate they nomenclature "Templot Session", it suggests something like the Assizes). I want to find how to lengthen the approach track not what key "F3" does for instance and yet only a list of keys in numerical order is offered. Somehow an alphabetic list of functions equated to keys would be better for new users (and us old 'uns). Most of Martin's time would seem spent in correspondence related to our mistakes and ignorance in trying to achieve the designs we desire. It seems to demonstrate that the information already provided is not adequately understandable. It would be better all round if a start were made on a User Manual at this time tidying up the helpful information already available into more user friendly form (for example, why do we have 'background' and not 'layout' for example, after all, a layout is what we are producing not a background, then we would have 'layout templates' and 'control templates' as our primary interests. The fact that the control template seemingly sits 'on' or visually over the 'layout' is simply a software convenience not a given) All this is just to start a dialogue 1. To see if I stand alone in finding our powerful software hamstrung to a degree by difficult to apply guidance sheets. 2 How would a manual be structured and how could the work be spread through the Temploteers to get as wide a contribution as possible. There endeth the first parable? Regards to all Donald |
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posted: 7 Dec 2008 18:39 from: Martin Wynne
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donald peters wrote: I want to find how to lengthen the approach track not what key "F3" does for instance and yet only a list of keys in numerical order is offered. Somehow an alphabetic list of functions equated to keys would be better for new users (and us old 'uns).Hi Donald, As I've explained before, what you do is press CTRL-F and then enter "approach track" and the page scrolls to what you are looking for. This is basic Windows and web surfing knowledge. It's not reasonable to expect me to include a Windows primer within Templot. A full alphabetically-indexed Help system is in preparation, but it's nowhere near ready or finished yet. However, as I mentioned a few days ago, there is an improved Search function for the Templot web site at: http://85a.co.uk/forum/search_templot.htm If you enter "approach track" there, I'm sure you will soon find reference to the F3 mouse action. regards, Martin. |
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posted: 7 Dec 2008 19:55 from: donald peters
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Hallo, Apologies all. This seems to have gone wrong, Regards Donalds |
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posted: 20 May 2009 11:54 from: newport_rod click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
I've just started to get usable plans from templot - sitting down and going through the tutorail certainly helped. One thing I think I'd find useful is a glossary of templot terms e.g. wipe, background, store, notch peg etc. If if already exists somewhere sorry for bringing it up. |
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posted: 9 Jun 2009 15:03 from: Martin Wynne
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newport_rod wrote: One thing I think I'd find useful is a glossary of Templot terms e.g. wipe, background, store, notch peg etc.Hi Rodney, There isn't currently a glossary in quite that form, sorry. I agree it would be very useful. However, if you do a search for a particular term, you should soon find an explanation within the search results. There are several search options at: http://85a.co.uk/forum/search_templot.htm If you click the index link on the FreeFind search, there is a massive alphabetical list of every individual word on the Templot web site (excluding messages on this Templot Club forum), which may be used as a glossary. Here's a direct link to the FreeFind index. (The FreeFind search is sponsored by advertising which has no connection with Templot.) regards, Martin. |
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posted: 9 Jun 2009 21:38 from: sevenmil click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
Poor old Martin, I feel for you. Templot is just like TOPSY it grew & grew & grew, it is now very difficult to write a user manual. I would have to agree with others on this subject, though, I too cannot get my head round Martin's thinking re Templot, consequently all I do is print out the turnouts as I require. |
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posted: 11 Jun 2009 12:32 from: newport_rod click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
Thanks for the link Martin. I wasn't aware of the index function and it does go some way towards providing what I was looking for. Rod |
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