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Building Yeovil Pen Mill in EM.

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Andrew

I do know what you mean, but for different reasons. The thing is just to do something, it might be by bringing a small project into the house like building a wagon kit. For me doing a little taster gets me going

I had a stroke of luck as I recently won on eBay a LSWR A12, built to EM gauge and just needing hand rails and lining (The wheels and motor are worth more than I paid).

I am in the process of starting a little cameo layout and I need a bit of your ingenuity where fitting point motors/servos are concerned

John
Hello John
Thanks again for the encouragement, and I think you're probably right ...something small to just get the modeling juices flowing again!
I'm sure I should know what an A12 is but I don't. Got a photo in all its unlined glory?
Not sure I can give you help at all let alone in the ingenuity department but if you want to share more then please do and perhaps someone here will be able to help?

Kind regards
Andrew
 
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Hello Andrew.
From my personal experience, one just has to let the healing process take its course. After my parents died, it took me several months to get over it. After Mum died, we had to look after dad for nearly 18 months and then there was the business of sorting out the estate. The strange thing was that when Dad was with us, I did manage to get some modelling done, but after he passed away and I had some time on my hands, I just could not get back into it and I would find myself just lost in thought with no motivation. I eventually realised that with looking after Dad, I had not been able to mourn the loss of Mum and now I was mourning them both. It just takes time.
Best wishes
Tony.
 
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Hello Andrew.
From my personal experience, one just has to let the healing process take its course. After my parents died, it took me several months to get over it. After Mum died, we had to look after dad for nearly 18 months and then there was the business of sorting out the estate. The strange thing was that when Dad was with us, I did manage to get some modelling done, but after he passed away and I had some time on my hands, I just could not get back into it and I would find myself just lost in thought with no motivation. I eventually realised that with looking after Dad, I had not been able to mourn the loss of Mum and now I was mourning them both. It just takes time.
Best wishes
Tony.
Hi, I think your experience is not unusual as I found myself in much the same situation some years ago.
 
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Hello John
Thanks again for the encouragement, and I think you're probably right ...something small to just get the modeling juices flowing again!
I'm sure I should know what an A12 is but I don't. Got a photo in all its unlined glory?
Not sure I can give you help at all let alone in the ingenuity department but if you want to share more then please do and perhaps someone here will be able to help?

Kind regards
Andrew

Not quite up to your standards small 48" x 18" cameo layout enclosed at the sides and rear

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The idea is to copy this arrangement. Entrance to a warehouse on a viaduct, which then grew to a diorama which also showed off some motor vechial's I have. Further complicated with the idea of the trackbed being interchangeable with either an EM gauge one or an 00 gauge version, this is probably a step too far for me
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The main issue was initially two of the 3 tiebars were in a bridge section, now only one is but the servos will be within the viaduct. The trackbed is plastic soffit board, light but strong. So far the timbers are stuck down, just about to do the same with the sleeper panels

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I am trying out different angles for the track bed.

Both 3 story warehouses will be reduced by 1 section in length. The taller one on the right will have a split level facing on to the road. The other side of the railway track (right front) will have various height buildings

Front left will have an arches scene, perhaps market stalls this side of the bridge, or the start of a terrace

The baseboard will have cut outs where the enclosed viaducts are for access to the bottom of the track beds

The buildings will look quite a bit different, just trying to get an idea of their mass

Sorry for high jacking your thread
 
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Hello Andrew.
From my personal experience, one just has to let the healing process take its course. After my parents died, it took me several months to get over it. After Mum died, we had to look after dad for nearly 18 months and then there was the business of sorting out the estate. The strange thing was that when Dad was with us, I did manage to get some modelling done, but after he passed away and I had some time on my hands, I just could not get back into it and I would find myself just lost in thought with no motivation. I eventually realised that with looking after Dad, I had not been able to mourn the loss of Mum and now I was mourning them both. It just takes time.
Best wishes
Tony.
Thanks very much for sharing these thoughts and experiences Tony. Courageous and sensitive of you to say so publically. And you know all this helps (me and others maybe?) because it is a part of the healing process.
Thank you
Andrew
 
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Hi, I think your experience is not unusual as I found myself in much the same situation some years ago.
Hello Stephen,
If there's one thing for sure in life, its that it will come to an end eventually. So I'm sure you are correct in what you say, and I often now wonder if we shouldn't talk about it rather more than we usually do...?
Kind regards
Andrew
 
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Not quite up to your standards small 48" x 18" cameo layout enclosed at the sides and rear

View attachment 2885
The idea is to copy this arrangement. Entrance to a warehouse on a viaduct, which then grew to a diorama which also showed off some motor vechial's I have. Further complicated with the idea of the trackbed being interchangeable with either an EM gauge one or an 00 gauge version, this is probably a step too far for me
View attachment 2886

The main issue was initially two of the 3 tiebars were in a bridge section, now only one is but the servos will be within the viaduct. The trackbed is plastic soffit board, light but strong. So far the timbers are stuck down, just about to do the same with the sleeper panels

View attachment 2887

I am trying out different angles for the track bed.

Both 3 story warehouses will be reduced by 1 section in length. The taller one on the right will have a split level facing on to the road. The other side of the railway track (right front) will have various height buildings

Front left will have an arches scene, perhaps market stalls this side of the bridge, or the start of a terrace

The baseboard will have cut outs where the enclosed viaducts are for access to the bottom of the track beds

The buildings will look quite a bit different, just trying to get an idea of their mass

Sorry for high jacking your thread
An interesting project John, No need to apologise, I asked you for a photo of an A12...you have given us a whole layout. Looks as though this is another thread/topic/layout thread in the making to me. I love layouts like this, Iain has planned several of them and he always makes them look highly atmospheric. Your looks like it's in the same mold.
Andrew
PS can you send a pic of an A12?
 
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If there's one thing for sure in life, its that it will come to an end eventually. So I'm sure you are correct in what you say, and I often now wonder if we shouldn't talk about it rather more than we usually do...?

Hello Andrew,

Here's a man talking about the loss of two sons. It might help. Take care.


Martin.
 
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An interesting project John, No need to apologise, I asked you for a photo of an A12...you have given us a whole layout. Looks as though this is another thread/topic/layout thread in the making to me. I love layouts like this, Iain has planned several of them and he always makes them look highly atmospheric. Your looks like it's in the same mold.
Andrew
PS can you send a pic of an A12?

Andrew sorry I miss-read your reply. I have long been an admirer of the GEM LBSCR Gladstone loco something about 0-4-2's nut these are not as common, Think they are now available RTR. But as I said I paid about as much as a set of wheels and a Mashima motor would cost me. Finished its worth so much more

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It has been nicely built and runs well as it has Gibson wheels, Mashima motor and I think its a Comet gearbox

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As well as lining and new handrails the cab interior also needs painting. All the hard work has been done to a super standard and as I said the bonus is its in EM gauge. The chassis needs painting, I think the chassis is scratch built and has compensation on all 3 wheelsets. I will have to think about the painting as I don't want to either damage the wheels or their paint.

These kits are available again via the NuCast Partnership at £95 with the basic NuCast etched chassis side frames

The background is my kit bashed Ratio station building in to a similar configuration as Bodmin General, soaked up 3 kits and OK its GWR, but in the right area and its modelled on the preservation era
 
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Andrew sorry I miss-read your reply. I have long been an admirer of the GEM LBSCR Gladstone loco something about 0-4-2's nut these are not as common, Think they are now available RTR. But as I said I paid about as much as a set of wheels and a Mashima motor would cost me. Finished its worth so much more

View attachment 2895

It has been nicely built and runs well as it has Gibson wheels, Mashima motor and I think its a Comet gearbox

View attachment 2896

As well as lining and new handrails the cab interior also needs painting. All the hard work has been done to a super standard and as I said the bonus is its in EM gauge. The chassis needs painting, I think the chassis is scratch built and has compensation on all 3 wheelsets. I will have to think about the painting as I don't want to either damage the wheels or their paint.

These kits are available again via the NuCast Partnership at £95 with the basic NuCast etched chassis side frames

The background is my kit bashed Ratio station building in to a similar configuration as Bodmin General, soaked up 3 kits and OK its GWR, but in the right area and its modelled on the preservation era
Lovely loco John. And a very attractive wheel arrangement and a great livery. I'll really look forward to seeing this lined out and finished off. Are you going to line it by hand or use commercial lining?
Andrew
 
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I have a bow pen and every now and then have a practice, but still not quite got the knack. I think its a cheap one so I may invest in a new one. I think with this loco its a thick black outer and a very thin white inner line

I will have to ask what others do

The more I look at the chassis the luckier I feel as its a work of art

Thank you for taking so much interest
 
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I have a bow pen and every now and then have a practice, but still not quite got the knack. I think its a cheap one so I may invest in a new one. I think with this loco its a thick black outer and a very thin white inner line

I will have to ask what others do

The more I look at the chassis the luckier I feel as its a work of art

Thank you for taking so much interest
I remember many years ago, Ian Rathbone had a small demo at Warley and was selling bow-pens after he had refined them. I believe that as they come they are too sharp (?) and he just gently smoothed them with an oilstone (I think). I did buy one from him before he sold out but I can't say it really improved my ability in that sphere.
 
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I remember many years ago, Ian Rathbone had a small demo at Warley and was selling bow-pens after he had refined them. I believe that as they come they are too sharp (?) and he just gently smoothed them with an oilstone (I think). I did buy one from him before he sold out but I can't say it really improved my ability in that sphere.
Hello Stephen
That sounds familiar to me, pens being honed with an oil stone. There must be someone on this forum who actually has experience of their use? I use a Bob Moore pen which I find pretty easy to use but it won't give the fineness of line that a good bow pen will.
Andrew
 
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There is a brief paragraph on the subject in Steve Barnfields book "Modelling Railways Illustrated Handbooks No3 Painting and lining". Having said that, I have had more luck with Rotring pens, however you have to remove the wire inside the nib thus rendering them unusable for their normal purpose. Are rotrings still with us in this digital age?
 
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I have a bow pen and every now and then have a practice, but still not quite got the knack. I think its a cheap one so I may invest in a new one. I think with this loco its a thick black outer and a very thin white inner line

I will have to ask what others do

The more I look at the chassis the luckier I feel as its a work of art

Thank you for taking so much interest
It's a real pleasure John. May I make another request...if you feel it's worth it. A photo of the chassis if it would show its "art"?
Andrew
 
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It's a real pleasure John. May I make another request...if you feel it's worth it. A photo of the chassis if it would show its "art"?
Andrew
Andrew

No problem as I have not removed the chassis yet and it gives me the chance to have a look

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As you can see I will need to add a new front footstep, hopefully I will have something quite close as its part of the side footplate casting, at worst I will make a mould from the other side. As you can see it is a nicely made basic chassis frame

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The two front drivers are on twin link beam giving 3/4 point compensation, the rear wheels are on a beam pivot between the rear driver and rear wheels, the axles have no bearings but the axle holes are elongated on the vertical axis giving a 3 rocker point. Seems to be done as per Mike Sharman's Flexichas method

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It looks like this is a different chassis to that which was built with the loco. The tender has an unconnected pickup system, which I assume dates back to the initial build, but there are no signs it was ever connected electrically to the new chassis

The chassis fixing is a single bolt at the front, the rear slides into the cab dragbeam. The instructions show the original cast whitemetal chassis, the tender still has the original cast chassis

The circular round whitemetal piece is one of two that were in the body, they fit nicely into the smokebox (I cannot see another use for them)
 
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Andrew

No problem as I have not removed the chassis yet and it gives me the chance to have a look

View attachment 2961

As you can see I will need to add a new front footstep, hopefully I will have something quite close as its part of the side footplate casting, at worst I will make a mould from the other side. As you can see it is a nicely made basic chassis frame

View attachment 2962

The two front drivers are on twin link beam giving 3/4 point compensation, the rear wheels are on a beam pivot between the rear driver and rear wheels, the axles have no bearings but the axle holes are elongated on the vertical axis giving a 3 rocker point. Seems to be done as per Mike Sharman's Flexichas method

View attachment 2963

It looks like this is a different chassis to that which was built with the loco. The tender has an unconnected pickup system, which I assume dates back to the initial build, but there are no signs it was ever connected electrically to the new chassis

The chassis fixing is a single bolt at the front, the rear slides into the cab dragbeam. The instructions show the original cast whitemetal chassis, the tender still has the original cast chassis

The circular round whitemetal piece is one of two that were in the body, they fit nicely into the smokebox (I cannot see another use for them)
Hello John
As you say very nicely built chassis and really good that it has full compensation. The two locos I've built with it, rather than one fixed axel that most of my locos have, do really glide along the track in a very convincing manner as if they were sprung. I feel sure that if you can get the tender pickup connected again that this would prove beneficial and maybe even put very fine wire pickup on the trailing wheels...?
Lovely loco John, thanks for the photos.

Andrew
 
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Dear Andrew, i could not find a way to send you a private message, but my question could be inappropriate?
I hope i dont offend you to ask it here out in the open, if so ask Martin do delete everything and or send me a pm.
Or if Martin find this inappropriate delete it please.

How are you and your three kids doing?
My offer still stands to get a small holiday here in the Netherlands, some small escape.

With best regards and wishing you all the best Igor K
 
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Hi Igor,

Sorry, there is no private message system on here.

Instead, you can contact another member privately by email if they have provided their email address for the purpose.

Click on Andrew's name on the left of his posts to go to his Profile. Then click on the About tab to see his email address.

Please post again here to let me know when you have done so. I will then remove your kind message, which is currently showing on the public forum.

cheers,

Martin.
 
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Dear Andrew, i could not find a way to send you a private message, but my question could be inappropriate?
I hope i dont offend you to ask it here out in the open, if so ask Martin do delete everything and or send me a pm.
Or if Martin find this inappropriate delete it please.

How are you and your three kids doing?
My offer still stands to get a small holiday here in the Netherlands, some small escape.

With best regards and wishing you all the best Igor K
Hello Igor
I'm overwhelmed by your offer and by your trusting generosity. You, therefore, don't offend me in the slightest, quite the opposite infact, to offer a complete stranger a place to stay is both courageous and very generous, and I thank you for this very much indeed, perhaps more than you might imagine.
To answer your question, were are broadly speaking ok, but I'm not pretending it's an easy transition from being a married man to being a widower, because it isn't, as I'm sure you can imagine! As I am still gainfully employed despite my age, I'd find it difficult to get away easily at the moment, partly at any rate, because this is one of our busiest times of year. I'm not however dismissing the idea and perhaps we might continue this conversation at some point via email as it doesn't seem directly relevant to building model trackwork!!
My email is andrew at artoflivingcookshop dot co dot uk

Thank you again
Andrew
 
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Hi Igor,

Sorry, there is no private message system on here.

Instead, you can contact another member privately by email if they have provided their email address for the purpose.

Click on Andrew's name on the left of his posts to go to his Profile. Then click on the About tab to see his email address.

Please post again here to let me know when you have done so. I will then remove your kind message, which is currently showing on the public forum.

cheers,

Martin.
Hello Martin
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. If Igor wants it removed then please do so and I find that understandable. Dont however remove from my point of view, as I have been deeply touched by his thoughtfulness and because (and I know its just one man who's made me this offer) I think it shows how very caring a community we have here on the Templot Forum. Something that we can all be deeply proud of.
Kind regards
Andrew
 
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Andrew

Good to see you posting and I think we are all thinking of you and your family, in one way having something to distract you helps adjust to what will be the new normality, it will never be the same but with after loosing both parents its only the good memories that survive

This weekend I tried the seafood trailer in a local pub car park, and bought some fresh cockles. Every night when on holiday with my parents at Margate we stopped at the seafood stall and bought a plate of cockles or whelks

Some time ago I bought some closed cell foam sheet from C&L (I dont know if they still sell it as what they sell now is describes as rubberised cork https://www.clfinescale.co.uk/onlin...ED-CORK-SHEET-1-M-X-0-5-M-X-3-0-MM-p129151279

If you buy some use either latex or some other rubberised adhesive, for sticking the cork to the baseboard, track to the foam and the ballast. I use Copydex as an impact glue for fixing the foam to the baseboard, neat to fix the track to the foam (weigh the track down) then dilute 50/50 with water to fix the ballast in place as you would with PVA. Dont use PVA as it locks everything up !!!

I have also tried one of the new polymer glues with excellent results https://www.multifixbury.com/290ml-...IM9xYCCP97DRdcw9GoLx0DBp16cIgWEIaAr71EALw_wcB For both laying the foam to the baseboard and track to the foam, like Latex/Copydex it dries with a bit of flexibility

Keep well and if you are at the Alley Paly show I will be on the C&L stand pop over and say hello
 
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Efoam is where I got some from, it comes in various thickness and they can supply with self-adhesive backing (I found that very useful and a great time saver). As far as I can tell the EFP30 is the same as that sold by C&L and others (I was told that they used to get it from Norman Solomons but that was more than one owner into the past). Efoam also sell Plastazote, though I doubt the extra expense is justified for our needs.
 
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Hello Igor
I'm overwhelmed by your offer and by your trusting generosity. You, therefore, don't offend me in the slightest, quite the opposite infact, to offer a complete stranger a place to stay is both courageous and very generous, and I thank you for this very much indeed, perhaps more than you might imagine.
To answer your question, were are broadly speaking ok, but I'm not pretending it's an easy transition from being a married man to being a widower, because it isn't, as I'm sure you can imagine! As I am still gainfully employed despite my age, I'd find it difficult to get away easily at the moment, partly at any rate, because this is one of our busiest times of year. I'm not however dismissing the idea and perhaps we might continue this conversation at some point via email as it doesn't seem directly relevant to building model trackwork!!
My email is andrew@artoflivingcokshop.co.uk

Thank you again
Andrew
I think that should read ****cookshop***
Regards
Tony.

EDIT. That might be one way to defeat the spammers, but I see Andrew has now altered his original post to correct the unfortunate typo.
 
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I think that should read ****cookshop***
Regards
Tony.

EDIT. That might be one way to defeat the spammers, but I see Andrew has now altered his original post to correct the unfortunate typo.
Hello Tony
Well observed!! But no twas not me who corrected it.... Maybe our glorious leader sneaked in before anyone saw it....!
Kind regards
Andrew
 
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Andrew

Good to see you posting and I think we are all thinking of you and your family, in one way having something to distract you helps adjust to what will be the new normality, it will never be the same but with after loosing both parents its only the good memories that survive

This weekend I tried the seafood trailer in a local pub car park, and bought some fresh cockles. Every night when on holiday with my parents at Margate we stopped at the seafood stall and bought a plate of cockles or whelks

Some time ago I bought some closed cell foam sheet from C&L (I dont know if they still sell it as what they sell now is describes as rubberised cork https://www.clfinescale.co.uk/onlin...ED-CORK-SHEET-1-M-X-0-5-M-X-3-0-MM-p129151279

If you buy some use either latex or some other rubberised adhesive, for sticking the cork to the baseboard, track to the foam and the ballast. I use Copydex as an impact glue for fixing the foam to the baseboard, neat to fix the track to the foam (weigh the track down) then dilute 50/50 with water to fix the ballast in place as you would with PVA. Dont use PVA as it locks everything up !!!

I have also tried one of the new polymer glues with excellent results https://www.multifixbury.com/290ml-...IM9xYCCP97DRdcw9GoLx0DBp16cIgWEIaAr71EALw_wcB For both laying the foam to the baseboard and track to the foam, like Latex/Copydex it dries with a bit of flexibility

Keep well and if you are at the Alley Paly show I will be on the C&L stand pop over and say hello
Hello John
Thank you for your thoughtful words. Yes, the familiar can bring back strong emotions!
I've never been to the Alley Pally show and I'm still not got back to doing any modeling either as yet, but I'm sure I'll get there. When's the show?
Andrew
 
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And the oddest things hit you - or at least me .... Suddenly coming across a big valentines display in the supermarket - even though my late wife hated all that, and I knew its coming up.

Sorting through photographs is another ... I've been meaning to put them all in an album for ages: the good, bad and the ugly and I'm happily sorting through a load of indifferent views of a holiday years ago in Guernsey and wham! there's a photo in the middle of them of my wife in Barcelona looking like she's really enjoying herself. I'm hoping over time I'll look at these photos will happy memories - but I'm not at that stage yet.

Its a slow old process I'm afraid

All the best, and look after yourself

Richard
 
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Andrew

Great to hear from you, the show is the 19th and 20th of March, Warner's now sponsor and promote the Model Railways clubs annual show and in my opinion taken it to a new level. The big layouts and most of the larger traders are in the main hall, the small hall seems to house the more specialist traders and has loads of demonstrators as well as layouts, To me it seems a very relaxed show and always something interesting to see. The demonstration stands are my favourites as I love seeing things being made, plus they seem to have a large early style layout (tinplate of Hornby Dublo 3 rail)

It just has a friendly atmosphere and some mouth watering layouts, if you do come do come and say hello as I will be helping Phil out on the C&L stand

Sundays are quieter and if driving much easier on the nerves, free parking and courtesy busses from the car parks. If you don't go through central London and have a modern car there is no congestion charging. Many come by train if you don't fancy driving in North London

As I said good to see you posting
 
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Efoam is where I got some from, it comes in various thickness and they can supply with self-adhesive backing (I found that very useful and a great time saver). As far as I can tell the EFP30 is the same as that sold by C&L and others (I was told that they used to get it from Norman Solomons but that was more than one owner into the past). Efoam also sell Plastazote, though I doubt the extra expense is justified for our needs.
Hello Stephen
I like the idea of it being self adhesive. A good time saver and presumably stays put where you want it to stay.
Kind regards
Andrew
 
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And the oddest things hit you - or at least me .... Suddenly coming across a big valentines display in the supermarket - even though my late wife hated all that, and I knew its coming up.

Sorting through photographs is another ... I've been meaning to put them all in an album for ages: the good, bad and the ugly and I'm happily sorting through a load of indifferent views of a holiday years ago in Guernsey and wham! there's a photo in the middle of them of my wife in Barcelona looking like she's really enjoying herself. I'm hoping over time I'll look at these photos will happy memories - but I'm not at that stage yet.

Its a slow old process I'm afraid

All the best, and look after yourself

Richard
Hello Richard
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings with me / us. Family photos are also pretty hard for me at the moment as well. I got out a stack of them just after she died in August and actually really enjoyed looking at them. But now I'm almost afraid to look at them because of my reaction to them, of the awful sadness and longing that they bring up. 6 months on its really hitting home now that I'll never see her again, which sounds odd after that length of time. But that's how it is for me. We are all different in the way we react death I think. What is helpful, I find, though is talking about it.....very healing if uncomfortable at times.
Thanks again
Andrew
 
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Andrew

Great to hear from you, the show is the 19th and 20th of March, Warner's now sponsor and promote the Model Railways clubs annual show and in my opinion taken it to a new level. The big layouts and most of the larger traders are in the main hall, the small hall seems to house the more specialist traders and has loads of demonstrators as well as layouts, To me it seems a very relaxed show and always something interesting to see. The demonstration stands are my favourites as I love seeing things being made, plus they seem to have a large early style layout (tinplate of Hornby Dublo 3 rail)

It just has a friendly atmosphere and some mouth watering layouts, if you do come do come and say hello as I will be helping Phil out on the C&L stand

Sundays are quieter and if driving much easier on the nerves, free parking and courtesy busses from the car parks. If you don't go through central London and have a modern car there is no congestion charging. Many come by train if you don't fancy driving in North London

As I said good to see you posting
Thanks again John, and youre doing a good selling job on the show as well!
Andrew
 
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Andrew

I expect you have missed the news that C&L have now new EM track bases, they have thicker 1.6mm thick sleepers and come in either 3 bolt S1 chairs or 2 bolt GWR chairs. They have keys in the chairs and come in 60' panels with 12" sleepers at both ends. This track base matches the new EMGS and Finetrack turnouts

The older thinner track base will also still be available
 
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Hi Andrew,

What you've posted so far looks fantastic indeed! I'll follow this thread with great interest.

This thread was pointed out to me elsewhere with a suggestion to ask you, since I'm also planning my own representation of Pen Mill: have there been any drawings of the station building, tower, and goods shed ever published? I can't swim well enough to just hop over to Yeovil with a tape measure...
 
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Hi Andrew,

What you've posted so far looks fantastic indeed! I'll follow this topic with great interest.

This topic was pointed out to me elsewhere with a suggestion to ask you, since I'm also planning my own representation of Pen Mill: have there been any drawings of the station building, tower, and goods shed ever published? I can't swim well enough to just hop over to Yeovil with a tape measure...
Hello Xen
I'm very sorry to be a little late in answering your question. And all the more since my answer is not what you want to hear. No I've not seen any drawings published. I've relied on two or three books to give me most of the information I have on the subject of Pen Mill. I've not made any progress on the layout in the last year and a half or so unfortunately and find myself a little out of touch. If you want me to look them out, I'm very happy to do so. Just let me know and I shall pay my shed a visit!

Apologies again. for the rather long delay.
Kind regards
Andrew
 
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Hello Xen
I'm very sorry to be a little late in answering your question. And all the more since my answer is not what you want to hear. No I've not seen any drawings published. I've relied on two or three books to give me most of the information I have on the subject of Pen Mill. I've not made any progress on the layout in the last year and a half or so unfortunately and find myself a little out of touch. If you want me to look them out, I'm very happy to do so. Just let me know and I shall pay my shed a visit!

Apologies again. for the rather long delay.
Kind regards
Andrew
Hi Andrew,

No need to apologise, life can be busy. Thank you for the offer, I'd be very interested... if you could tell me the titles of the books, perhaps I can track them down for my own library. I have two from Middleton Press focussing on Yeovil and the area which are a good start for me, but one can never have too much in the way of references!
 
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Hello Xen
I'm very sorry to be a little late in answering your question. And all the more since my answer is not what you want to hear. No I've not seen any drawings published. I've relied on two or three books to give me most of the information I have on the subject of Pen Mill. I've not made any progress on the layout in the last year and a half or so unfortunately and find myself a little out of touch. If you want me to look them out, I'm very happy to do so. Just let me know and I shall pay my shed a visit!

Apologies again. for the rather long delay.
Kind regards
Andrew

Andrew

So good to see you replying even if its to report no progress. Good to know that you still are keeping up with Templot Club
 
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