Matt Rogers
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Hi All
It's been a long (Long) time since I last picked up Templot, since my first stab at P4 with a long since abandoned project, Blackwell road. Several house moves, passing through not only an engineering apprenticeship, but going on to complete degree in Engineering and a move from Devon to Sheffield, all conspired to sink that particular project.
Well things have settled down somewhat, and so I've been on the lookout for a new project, to finally get something running. My requirements were fairly (un)reasonable. Time period is pretty easily set; BR LMR, Northwest England, Circa Later 1973 - 5th May 1974. But I wanted to model an actual location, trying to design something fictional with Blackwell Road had left me dissatisfied. Diesel Depot layouts are fairly common, so I wanted something different. Something with AC Electrics (Hence the time period). So that pretty much limits me to somewhere on the WCML between Preston and Carlisle. A Tall order, granted. The WCML doesn't lend itself to being condensed into a small space, especially in 4mm. To cut a long story short, I've looked at a few places, but the railway is a big place. It's surprising how even the most simple of passing loops ends up being a 6m+ monster. I considered trying to condense an area, Carlisle Platform 1 with it's handy back wall, and siding for various forms of traction and rolling stock. But even that ended up being 5+ meters. But to cut a long story short.
Bog Junction 1996
The view above is from Gordon Thomson over on Flickr, and shows Bog Junction in 1996, viewed from the Currock Road Bridge, facing East. The lines in the foreground go to the now defunct Goods Avoiding Line (Left) and of towards Mayport and Workington (Right). The lines in the background come from Newcastle/ S&C (Left) and WCML to the south at Upperby. There are two bridges in the background, although the furthest one is hidden from view, the First carries the Maryport and Workington line into Carlisle Citadel Station, the hidden bridge carries the WCML into Carlisle Citadel. According to some early measurements on Google maps, the area should fit onto two 1650mm long baseboards, totalling about 3.3m using the Currock Road and WCML Bridges at scenic breaks. During the period I wish to model, the Line from the Background Right, and leaving Foreground Left would have been strung with OLE. However this was removed after the Accident in 1984 which demolished the bridge carrying the avoiding line, since then the knitting has been removed and all freight now passes through the station.
Aim is to do this very much as a photo plank, but eventually to loop ether end into a roundy-roundy exhibition layout. But first, a track plan for the area, then I can work out baseboards. Hardest part of this so far, seems to be finding pictures of the area with the OLE in place. Although I have learned that the area was also used for crew changes, with staff walking down the embankment on the left, behind the buffer stops in high wapping sidings near Carlisle PSB.
I'd be eternally grateful to anyone can might be able to pick out details of the trackwork from the avoid image, crossing angles, switch blade lengths? I'm so rusty I'm not even sure where to begin.
Regards
Matt
It's been a long (Long) time since I last picked up Templot, since my first stab at P4 with a long since abandoned project, Blackwell road. Several house moves, passing through not only an engineering apprenticeship, but going on to complete degree in Engineering and a move from Devon to Sheffield, all conspired to sink that particular project.
Well things have settled down somewhat, and so I've been on the lookout for a new project, to finally get something running. My requirements were fairly (un)reasonable. Time period is pretty easily set; BR LMR, Northwest England, Circa Later 1973 - 5th May 1974. But I wanted to model an actual location, trying to design something fictional with Blackwell Road had left me dissatisfied. Diesel Depot layouts are fairly common, so I wanted something different. Something with AC Electrics (Hence the time period). So that pretty much limits me to somewhere on the WCML between Preston and Carlisle. A Tall order, granted. The WCML doesn't lend itself to being condensed into a small space, especially in 4mm. To cut a long story short, I've looked at a few places, but the railway is a big place. It's surprising how even the most simple of passing loops ends up being a 6m+ monster. I considered trying to condense an area, Carlisle Platform 1 with it's handy back wall, and siding for various forms of traction and rolling stock. But even that ended up being 5+ meters. But to cut a long story short.
Bog Junction 1996
The view above is from Gordon Thomson over on Flickr, and shows Bog Junction in 1996, viewed from the Currock Road Bridge, facing East. The lines in the foreground go to the now defunct Goods Avoiding Line (Left) and of towards Mayport and Workington (Right). The lines in the background come from Newcastle/ S&C (Left) and WCML to the south at Upperby. There are two bridges in the background, although the furthest one is hidden from view, the First carries the Maryport and Workington line into Carlisle Citadel Station, the hidden bridge carries the WCML into Carlisle Citadel. According to some early measurements on Google maps, the area should fit onto two 1650mm long baseboards, totalling about 3.3m using the Currock Road and WCML Bridges at scenic breaks. During the period I wish to model, the Line from the Background Right, and leaving Foreground Left would have been strung with OLE. However this was removed after the Accident in 1984 which demolished the bridge carrying the avoiding line, since then the knitting has been removed and all freight now passes through the station.
Aim is to do this very much as a photo plank, but eventually to loop ether end into a roundy-roundy exhibition layout. But first, a track plan for the area, then I can work out baseboards. Hardest part of this so far, seems to be finding pictures of the area with the OLE in place. Although I have learned that the area was also used for crew changes, with staff walking down the embankment on the left, behind the buffer stops in high wapping sidings near Carlisle PSB.
I'd be eternally grateful to anyone can might be able to pick out details of the trackwork from the avoid image, crossing angles, switch blade lengths? I'm so rusty I'm not even sure where to begin.
Regards
Matt
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