5 way switch just for the fun

Sometimes you need to escape a busy life.
So i run into this interesting topic about a switch on the old forum:

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See the box file.

Starting was a 1:15 switch that was made into a single sided 3 way.
I did this two times, a left and a right hand.
I let them overlap.
I deleted all the timbering to get a better overall view to create a png file in detail mode.
And one with some timbering for a overlapping png file.
I will turn both into a stl file and post that one as well, it will take some adjustments to get it in a good working order.
but if i am going to make one?
Probably yes, just for the fun.
And if i make one it will be somewhere "semi functional" on a fiddle yard.

With best regards Igor
 

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Hi Tony,
The most of the time/work for me will be the making of the stl file.
You did a good job, thanks.
Do you have more of those odd idea's?

Changes are 90% sure i am going to build it functional two times.
For in the garden as a parking lot.

I have a feeling some of those are also your idea:
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The next one i found on a youtube channel, with a fun fact:
I was looking for turnout sets used in Dutch stations.
This set is used widly on the most great stations of the Netherlands.
The person who made this one was replicating Utrecht central station 1930-1940.
I must make this one 6 times for my Amsterdam central station.

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So a lot of practising needed, i dont think i am doing it wrong :cool: so far for now.

If you would like to share a close up of the toes/point in the beginning of the switch i would appreciated that very much.
I am in doubt to make it from aluminium or 3d print the points.
Both have equal great advantages and great disadvantages.

Thanks for putting it out, with best regards Igor

Ps the one i am making is going to be around 1 meter 90.
I dont think it is possible to create a 7 way switch due to lack of space.
If needed it can be done by placing the points after the last frog and start a new one sided 3 way not a 5 way?
 
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Tony W

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Hi Igor.
Some interesting formations there, I admire your ambition.
I have been asked before if I thought it possible to have more than 5 exit roads from a single turnout, but came to the conclusion it was unlikely for several reasons. The main one being insufficient space for extra switches between crossings. Also for every additional road the number of crossings increases rapidly. 1 for two roads, 3 for three roads, 6 for four roads, 10 for 5 roads, 15 for six roads and 21 for 7 roads. Making 10 crossings with all the differing angles was bad enough. Finally the decrease in radius of the outer roads may also be impractical. It seems to me that with mans ingenuity, if it were possible, someone, somewhere would have done it.
At present, the layout is in storage, so I can't take any new pictures, I'm afraid.

One formation I once considered but gave up on as impractical was in effect a scissors arrangement with 2 roads at one end and 3 roads at the other with access from either of the 2 to any of the 3, so what you have in effect is two scissors crossovers superimposed on each other. It got very messy very quickly.
Regards
Tony.
 
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Hmm 6 hours, yes i call this one difficult...(time consuming)
Next Sunday the safety rails and the frogs.(educated guess 6 hours)
I need a other hour to shift the timbering in there correct places, due to the frogs.
Check clearance for the back of the flange and flange drive way, if neccecery i must adjust, to MY standards so prototypical and not mra1 or something...
Cut out the rails, group frogs, convert into stl file (educated guess 4 hours)
Print piece by piece
Than a good Sunday to make the tracks incl grinding point work...(educated guess 8 hours)
Still must make a decision according to do what with the frogs, let the alu strip run thru or some will be in abs.
According to the length of the frogs i think i will make it alu strip.

Enjoy:
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One formation I once considered but gave up on as impractical was in effect a scissors arrangement with 2 roads at one end and 3 roads at the other with access from either of the 2 to any of the 3, so what you have in effect is two scissors crossovers superimposed on each other. It got very messy very quickly.
My technical English is not so good on this subject.
I made and completed a scissors crossover couple of weeks/months ago that was a bit to small for me to use on my main line.
Center to center was 125 mm and i need 150mm plus it was 4.60 radii and i would like to have them at minimum 8 meter radii.
1:7.5 is to short...the more i learn....sigh :(

Can you please make a drawing of what you mean?
Cous i dont have any idea/clue of what you are referring to, sorry.
Wild geuss: instead of a ordinarily diamond a double slip?
A quick set of lines on paper or what ever, i am very curios.
Could mean a other relaxing project for me.
In the mean time i am 3 days behind my study....

The main one being insufficient space for extra switches between crossings.
Thats why i stated after the last frog, even if yoy would make them 1:60 you would not have the room for other toes/points.
Finally the decrease in radius of the outer roads may also be impractical. It seems to me that with mans ingenuity, if it were possible, someone, somewhere would have done it.
Yes the decrease will go up exponentially...can be fixed with longer turnouts---->room, better is to connect several normal turnouts and a double slip.
But it can be done with some trouble and not a smooth ride! and the wheels would need bigger wheel bearing surface.

With best regards Igor
 
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Something like this?
I think it is possible but indeed really messy and not practical.
And i dont think there will be a good operation on it.
Or would you ever find this in the prototypical world
A better solution would be a 3way with the points to the points of a half dubble slip?

That 5 way there must be one in use somewhere in Germany, you have any idea where or pictures?
Thanks for your thoughts
 
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Hi Igor.
This is the picture I found on the internet of what I believe is the German 5 way turnout in a museum somewhere.
I will do a drawing of what I was meaning for the other design.
Regards
Tony.
 

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Tony W

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Here is a quick Templot sketch of the plan. The idea was for an island platform terminus with a storage siding between the running lines using third rail electric trains. It doesn't actually look so impossible in Templot as when I tried to draw it out with pen and paper all those years ago.
Regards
Tony.
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This is a very nice one.
I am struggling atm with making a y switch.
And connecting two opposite pieces together.
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It is going to massive, it is going to reach a 4 meter in length and 45 ish cm wide. my printer can not handle this(max 35cm).
Perfect excuse to modify my printer or buy a cr10 (50x50)and modify that one....to 100x50cm

The 5 way switch is sliced and ready for printing btw :cool:
Thanks in advance, best
 
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Tony W

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Hi Igor.
The way I did it was to set the track spacing for the two outer tracks and create crossovers and then set the track spacing for half that and create the crossovers for the middle track after putting the point blades where I wanted them.
Regards
Tony.
 
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Ah yes...
I toke the difficult route, never the less, i succeed.

If i am going to make this one, it will be ~100 cm longer
With p-32(1:32 scale) a meter is nothing.
Thanks.
 

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