Building Yeovil Pen Mill in EM.

Martin Wynne

Admin
Location
West of the Severn UK
Info
.
Enjoy using Templot?
Thanks.

Please do not send requests for help direct to me via email.

Post your questions on the forum where everyone can see them and add
helpful replies.
A folding table for all those wine glasses?
 
_______________
message ref: 1045
Andrew,
It's obvious. It is a picture, probably taken with a camera of some sort, in a house, yours I assume. It shows an old writing desk, quite a few boxes of decent quality glasses and a piece of wood you must have ordered :)

Rob

p.s. Martin's guess could well be true though.
 
_______________
message ref: 1046
Hello Roger

Thanks for the compliment. The vehicle you mention I built years ago on Iain Rices suggestion I think? It is just two W irons connected by some brass tube and rod with a vertical wire (arm) at each corner, bent through 90 degrees about 3" above the wheels. When it's on level track the ends of the wire, which point at each other line up. When I run it over my point work they usually go out of alignment, and the degree to which they miss align determines whether I need to do something about the unevenness or not!

I think it might have been called a "Diplometre", i.e. shows up dips in the track by exaggerating the effect due to the 3" length of the arms. I now don't recall where I saw the original design, Railway Modeller, MRJ or even one of Iain's books. But in any case, a simple thing to construct.

Hope that answers your question. If I've left anything out, please do ask.

Kind regards
Andrew
Hello Andrew,

Thanks for taking the time to reply. It all makes good sense now, and maybe I should have a go at making one as I have a couple of W irons going spare, I can play around with those. As I'm working in gauge one it should pick up any irregularities, particularly over the wing rails and vee.

I would liked to have a go at the competition (what is the framed wood for) you've started but i'll see how others get on.

Kind regards

Roger
 
_______________
message ref: 1055

Andrew Duncan

Member
Location
Reigate
Andrew,
It's obvious. It is a picture, probably taken with a camera of some sort, in a house, yours I assume. It shows an old writing desk, quite a few boxes of decent quality glasses and a piece of wood you must have ordered :)

Rob

p.s. Martin's guess could well be true though.
Hello Rob
Your logic is impeccable, and clearly, I might have been more precise in the wording I used, as it was the wood parcel on the floor that I was referring to, but fair point Rob your observations were spot on although I noticed you left out the carpet and the doormat in your list, twas otherwise without fault😜

Martin
No, not a folding table.

Tony
No not backscene I'm afraid, although that may not be true in the end as the hardboard that provided protection for the plywood, may become a backscene....not sure at this stage!

Infact, it’s two sheets of 9mm ply ( now rather regretting I didn’t go for 6mm instead to cut down on weight) which will provide the bottom layer of the baseboards for the line going south out of Yeovil (south is to the left of the junction end of the station) the part which goes in front of the main fiddleyard. The slightly unusual thing about these baseboards is that to maintain as much headroom under them as possible, I'm hoping to give them strength/rigidity by building that (in above) into the ground contours(made of 4mm ply) that support and shape the scenery around the track and with the support for the trackbed itself. I'll take a photo of my back of a fag packet drawing to show you what I mean.

If you refer to my plan on the previous page I hope the location will be clear...? They are the last two baseboards to be built and when in place, and some track laid, will allow a train to do a complete circuit of the layout!!!

Roger
I'm glad my explanations on the Diplometre were clear. Sorry you didn't win the competition. Don't feel bad...no one did!



Kind regards
Andrew
 
_______________
message ref: 1058
Last edited:

AndyB

Member
Yes, my thought was "To much information" presumably stored with the image.
Regards
Tony.
Hi Tony,

Yes images usually include embedded metadata. It's possible to strip them out but it's a bit of a pain. There can also be geo-coordinates from GPS on your phone too, as some criminals have learned to their dismay :D

But I don't think Andrew has anything to worry about as long as he doesn't go on about how much money he's saving by using servos for point motors on RMweb ;);)

Andy

(Reporting to you from my underground bunker in darkest Idaho.)
 
_______________
message ref: 1067

Tony W

Member
Location
North Notts
Hi Tony,

Yes images usually include embedded metadata. It's possible to strip them out but it's a bit of a pain. There can also be geo-coordinates from GPS on your phone too, as some criminals have learned to their dismay :D

But I don't think Andrew has anything to worry about as long as he doesn't go on about how much money he's saving by using servos for point motors on RMweb ;);)

Andy

(Reporting to you from my underground bunker in darkest Idaho.)
Sometimes I'm thankful I don't have a smart phone and won't be getting one any time soon.
Regards
Tony.
 
_______________
message ref: 1070

Andrew Duncan

Member
Location
Reigate
Sometimes I'm thankful I don't have a smart phone and won't be getting one any time soon.
Regards
Tony.
Tony
If sometimes you are grateful that you don't have one, that suggests there are times when you regret not having one...?

I have a love hate relationship with mine but there's more gratitude for all the convenience it affords, phone(I can answer on phone laptop and Ipad), diary, notebook, camera (just when I need it!), Solitare to distract me when I want to switch off, Vivino Wine app, Skype, and Music. Conversely, I hate it when it runs out of battery and when I lose it.

Andy's the only person in world who will know that you took a photo with it, and what you're inside leg measurement is ...well him and the CIA I suppose....?

Convinced?
 
_______________
message ref: 1085

Martin Wynne

Admin
Location
West of the Severn UK
Info
.
Enjoy using Templot?
Thanks.

Please do not send requests for help direct to me via email.

Post your questions on the forum where everyone can see them and add
helpful replies.
There are arguments against smartphones, but the EXIF data in image files isn't one of them. Because all digital cameras do exactly the same thing. :)

Although only a minority of cameras have built-in GPS recording, so that data isn't normally available in the EXIF.

If you don't want to share the data with the world, don't upload photos straight off your phone or camera. Copy and paste them into a graphics editor to crop or resize them first.

cheers,

Martin.
 
_______________
message ref: 1086

Andrew Duncan

Member
Location
Reigate
There are arguments against smartphones, but the EXIF data in image files isn't one of them. Because all digital cameras do exactly the same thing. :)

Although only a minority of cameras have built-in GPS recording, so that data isn't normally available in the EXIF.

If you don't want to share the data with the world, don't upload photos straight off your phone or camera. Copy and paste them into a graphics editor to crop or resize them first.

cheers,

Martin.mage
Hello Martin
Yes but I did use 'Imagesize' to reduce the size before uploading, but Andy was still able to get all this info. So if it did bother me, I'd presumably need to do something else would I?
Andrew
 
_______________
message ref: 1087

Tony W

Member
Location
North Notts
HI Andrew.
No!
My relationship with smart phones is heavily biased toward the hate side of the equation. My fingers and touch screens don't work very well together. Give me a mouse any time. I know because my wife has one and she sometimes struggles to use it and we have to get one of her children to help as I know even less about them than she does.
I do have a mobile phone (a Nokia brick) but rarely use it. It was my Mum's and when she went into hospital, my Dad put £30 extra credit on it (its pay as you go). Unfortunately Mum died in hospital and for a couple of years the phone was lost. When it eventually came to light, I expect to find it dead, but amazingly it still worked and still had £35 credit available. I use a mobile phone that much that it was three years before I needed to top up the credit and this past year I have barely been anywhere to need to use it. So for me the expense of a smart phone would be a waste of money.
Anyway that's what a landline is for, not that I use that very often.
Regards
Tony.
 
_______________
message ref: 1088

Martin Wynne

Admin
Location
West of the Severn UK
Info
.
Enjoy using Templot?
Thanks.

Please do not send requests for help direct to me via email.

Post your questions on the forum where everyone can see them and add
helpful replies.
Hello Martin
Yes but I did use 'Imagesize' to reduce the size before uploading, but Andy was still able to get all this info. So if it did bother me, I'd presumably need to do something else would I?
Andrew

Hi Andrew,

To be serious, you need to transfer it to your computer before uploading it. There are functions in Windows to remove some or all of the data from image files. The easier way is to open the file in one editor to see if it is any good, then copy the bitmap image into a separate graphics editor, save a new jpg file, and upload that. It is still likely to contain some EXIF data, such as the name of the editor program, and the date and time you edited it.

I transfer my photos onto an external drive on my computer, and open them in Irfanview (free) which allows me to see all the data. Then copy and paste the image into PaintShopPro to crop, edit and resize it, then save it into a new file for use. This means I can give it a more meaningful file name than DSC1234, such as "bunch_of_blue_bananas", and means the original file off the camera is never changed or lost.

cheers,

Martin.
 
_______________
message ref: 1089

Andrew Duncan

Member
Location
Reigate
Hello Everyone
Here is how I'm planning to construct the baseboards with no framing underneath it, to maximize the headroom underneath. As I get older I anticipate that I will be more and more thankful for this forward planning....if it works and doesn't sag in the middle.
Andrew.

C30F72BE-7EA7-4DAE-B542-85AB32834A04_Plan light weight main to tunnel1.jpg
 
_______________
message ref: 1090

Martin Wynne

Admin
Location
West of the Severn UK
Info
.
Enjoy using Templot?
Thanks.

Please do not send requests for help direct to me via email.

Post your questions on the forum where everyone can see them and add
helpful replies.
_______________
message ref: 1095
Top