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Building Yeovil Pen Mill in EM.

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If you search on line for Yeovil Pen Pen Mill station and select images, lots of pictures come up including one site call Yeovil's virtual museum which contains a lot of interesting stuff.
Regards
Tony.
 
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Hi Andrew,

No need to apologise, life can be busy. Thank you for the offer, I'd be very interested... if you could tell me the titles of the books, perhaps I can track them down for my own library. I have two from Middleton Press focussing on Yeovil and the area which are a good start for me, but one can never have too much in the way of references!
Hello Xen
Thank you for your understanding, I'll look them out at the weekend, if not before, and let you know the titles and authors.
As a matter of interest, what scale are you working in and what stage are you at...?

Kind regards
Andrew
 
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Andrew

So good to see you replying even if its to report no progress. Good to know that you still are keeping up with Templot Club
Hello John.
Thanks for your comment John. Honestly, I'm not really keeping up with the club at the moment or anything remotely railway related really. I think it's just a temporary if somewhat quite drawn out interregnum. I'm sure it will come back, just taking time!

It was Tony who emailed me a couple of days ago to ask how I was and mentioned that there was an unanswered question, which galvanized me into action!
But I shall return, in the fullness of time!!
Warm regards
Andrew
 
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If you search on line for Yeovil Pen Pen Mill station and select images, lots of pictures come up including one site call Yeovil's virtual museum which contains a lot of interesting stuff.
Regards
Tony.
Hello Tony
Thanks for your suggestion, this is a resource that I wasn't aware of. Good thing I dont make my living as a researcher ... think I'd have failed!
Warm regards
Andrew
 
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Hello Xen
Thank you for your understanding, I'll look them out at the weekend, if not before, and let you know the titles and authors.
As a matter of interest, what scale are you working in and what stage are you at...?

Kind regards
Andrew

Thank you!

As with everything else I've worked on over the past ~20 years, this will be in 1:120. I've wanted to do something British for ages, more recently YPM in specific since a visit there 3 years ago, and did contemplate getting into TT3 (to have a shared gauge, if not scale) but then the announcements of the past few months have spurred me on to going ahead with this in 1:120. I've got a quantity of research done, but I'm only at the very earliest stages of planning yet. It won't be as extensive as yours, more a modular thing with the Sherborne Road bridge as one end (the bridge is a good scenic block), and something beyond the goods shed, perhaps the cement facility at the other end. Set sometime before 1974, I was thinking end of the 60s or beginning of the 70s because I like both green and blue, but I'm tempted to go a few years earlier to include the AC railbusses.

Thank you again for your offer of help, and I look forward to seeing more of your progress, when it finally happens again! :)
 
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Hello Xen
Firstly my abject apologies for neglecting to do as I said I would, namely tell you the books I use for Yeovil Pen Mill. Below are pictures of the covers which I think will give you the info you need, if indeed you'd already have them. Apologies again for the long delay.
Kind regards
Andrew
Ps if you do have questions please do ask.
 

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Thank you kindly for that! And not a worry about the delay. :)

Actually I don't have any of those, so I'll look for them. These are the two that I have.

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Thank you kindly for that! And not a worry about the delay. :)

Actually I don't have any of those, so I'll look for them. These are the two that I have.

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@Xen V

Hi Xen,

There are two historical maps of Yeovil Pen Mill on the NLS web site which can be captured in Templot and used as a background guide for track planning:

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Use this link to find them:

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18.4&lat=50.94500&lon=-2.61229&layers=168&b=1

Select 25" County Series and either Somerset early (1885) or Somerset later (1901).

For more info about importing historic maps into Templot, see this video:

https://85a.uk/templot/companion/get_map_from_the_web.php

There is a later 1927 map available on this link:

https://maps.nls.uk/view/106008087#zoom=6&lat=5063&lon=8133&layers=BT

but unfortunately it is not available as georeferenced tiles which Templot can import. Screenshots would need to be captured manually and used in picture shapes. The above maps could be used as a guide to scale (resize) them.

NLS are in the process of adding historical aerial photos to their web site, but none are yet available for this location.

cheers,

Martin.
 
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Hello Everyone,
It's an awful long time since I've done any modeling at all, but next weekend I'm off to the Missenden summer retreat with the last station baseboard (again) to try to get it closer to finished and working!

Well actually, I think that that may be a bit of a tall order, in one week, but at least to make some significant progress will be my aim. And I hope that this will be the shot in the arm that gets me back to regular modeling again after the last 2 year break since Babette died.

So keep your fingers crossed for me, that I can remember which end of a soldering iron to pick up....

Kind regards to you all.
Andrew
 
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Andrew

I hope you have a great time first and foremost, and hopefully regain your modelling enthusiasm again
 
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I have my fingers crossed, and some prayers said and ready, also for Babette!
This is the first time you mention her name?
Do what you want and be in peace, modeling is not a obligation towards US its you that is willing to finish something.
And that is very understandable, i will for sure keep a very close eye on this project, not by any meaning to put weight on your shoulder.
But i like it.
With best and kind regards Igor K from the Netherlands
 
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Hi Andrew,

I look forward to seeing you make some progress with this project, I have done a weekend at Missenden and I am booked in for another this autumn. I found it very therapeutic and mojo enhancing.

I don't know if you're aware, but there's a gent on RMweb, doing Yeovil Pen Mill and Yeovil Town stations in 2mm,which looks to be very promising.
 
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Hi Andrew.
Its certainly been a while.
Glad to see your modelling mojo returning at last. I know these things take time and you just have to let them run their course, but you do eventually come out the other end.
I've not been on a Missenden course, but I'm sure it will do you a power of good. Progress is always a great moral booster.
Very best wishes
Tony.
 
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I have my fingers crossed, and some prayers said and ready, also for Babette!
This is the first time you mention her name?
Do what you want and be in peace, modeling is not a obligation towards US its you that is willing to finish something.
And that is very understandable, i will for sure keep a very close eye on this project, not by any meaning to put weight on your shoulder.
But i like it.
With best and kind regards Igor K from the Netherlands
Thanks a lot Igor, you are really most thoughtful and kind.
I do hope that this will be what it takes to get me back to modeling again!
Kind regards
Andrew
 
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Hi Andrew,

I look forward to seeing you make some progress with this project, I have done a weekend at Missenden and I am booked in for another this autumn. I found it very therapeutic and mojo enhancing.

I don't know if you're aware, but there's a gent on RMweb, doing Yeovil Pen Mill and Yeovil Town stations in 2mm,which looks to be very promising.
Hello Phil
Thank you for your best wishes, and yes I agree Missenden is very therapeutic. I've a feeling that it has been mentioned before, but I don't think I've seen it. It must be a project and a half, that's an awful lot of railway to build!

Kind regards
Andrew
 
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Hi Andrew.
Its certainly been a while.
Glad to see your modelling mojo returning at last. I know these things take time and you just have to let them run their course, but you do eventually come out the other end.
I've not been on a Missenden course, but I'm sure it will do you a power of good. Progress is always a great moral booster.
Very best wishes
Tony.
Thanks Tony, I appreciate your thought, as always, and certainly hope that this does the trick.
Time will tell.
Kind regards
Andrew
 
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Hello Phil
Thank you for your best wishes, and yes I agree Missenden is very therapeutic. I've a feeling that it has been mentioned before, but I don't think I've seen it. It must be a project and a half, that's an awful lot of railway to build!

Kind regards
Andrew

When I next get on the laptop, if I remember, I will add a link, otherwise just search for Yeovil, that should bring it up, or atleast have a few choices.
 
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Hello Everyone
Well, I'm back from a week of wall to wall tiny trains, and even I have to admit that I've made some really good progress in this time, and it seems to have been just what I needed to get me back in harness and raring to go again, after two and a bit years of no activity.

My thanks to Tony Gee who is a bit of a genius(track acing and problem locos) and the support of Tim Peacock who has been consistently encouraging to me(and giving hands on help) over my years of going to Missenden. And to my chums in the studio room where all the big dirty work (ie layout building) takes place. So thanks to them, Chris (loan of paints and other stuff) Charlie, Peter, John and Andy.

Here's a couple of pictures of baseboard six, the last of the station baseboards. You may not see a lot of difference, but whilst at Missenden I adjusted the servos , got them linked up to a Scalefour Society lever frame, which worked eventually. Then I sprayed all the track with Halfords grey primer. Having done this, the track which wasn't point work, I lifted(wasn't stuck down, just pinned) and relaid that (mostly relaying in a bed of PVA and ballast poured on to top), but did try two other methods as well.

And eventually had most of the track running well including the single slip with moving K Crossings!....very very sexy!!!

Also had the room laughing at my double slip where each pair of blades at each end moved in opposite directions (picture the blades moving, either away from each other, or towards each other, weird to behold. Sadly I've since corrected them so now move as a pair in the same direction, boring but correct.

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Here you can see that one ballasting method wasn't a total success........

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And here it is sorted out, ie no bald patches.

Next is probably sort out the double slip which is over gauge at one end, and then install the point rodding before sowing the surrounding ground cover.

It's really good to be back posting pictures of my progress and thank you for being so patient in the interregnum!

Kind regards
Andrew
 
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Andrew

What great news, to see you modelling and enjoying yourself. Similarly I have done very little other than post and buy and sell for the past 3 or more months. Got into a minor bit of burnout after a large project dragged on (my fault) and other things got in the way (allotment, sisters bathroom open garden etc) and enjoying binge watching several series.

I doubt if much will be done this month as Italy beckons and after a pause of 3 years we have been asked to have a model railway Christmas Tree at the local parish Church's Christmas Tree Festival.

Still I maintained my contact with the East Anglian group of the Lynton & Barnstable Railway where we build their heritage coaches. The body of van 23 is now in the form of a big kit, with all the parts that can be prefabricated, we are waiting for Woody Bay to finish the steel underframe. We are now making progress on coach number 9 where the components again are being prefabricated. Simply its nice to meet up with some friends and work with a common purpose to supply coaching stock for the railway, and have a pub lunch.

Do keep well and I look forward to seeing progress on the layout
 
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Andrew

What great news, to see you modelling and enjoying yourself. Similarly I have done very little other than post and buy and sell for the past 3 or more months. Got into a minor bit of burnout after a large project dragged on (my fault) and other things got in the way (allotment, sisters bathroom open garden etc) and enjoying binge watching several series.

I doubt if much will be done this month as Italy beckons and after a pause of 3 years we have been asked to have a model railway Christmas Tree at the local parish Church's Christmas Tree Festival.

Still I maintained my contact with the East Anglian group of the Lynton & Barnstable Railway where we build their heritage coaches. The body of van 23 is now in the form of a big kit, with all the parts that can be prefabricated, we are waiting for Woody Bay to finish the steel underframe. We are now making progress on coach number 9 where the components again are being prefabricated. Simply its nice to meet up with some friends and work with a common purpose to supply coaching stock for the railway, and have a pub lunch.

Do keep well and I look forward to seeing progress on the layout
Hello John

Thanks for the message and update on where you are...modeling wise. The coach building sounds interesting and diverting project!

I've made a little progress here. I started to prepare the point rodding, for which I use Modelu stools(stuck to 40 thou plastic strip) and ideally 0.4mm steel wire. I've run out and have been using brass as an alternative (a bit soft though).

Does anyone know where I can get 0.4mm steel wire in yard lengths, now that Eileens has gone?

Here's a couple of shots of the baseboard with stools threaded onto the rodding, lying lose, roughly in position.

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Kind regards
Andrew
 
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Andrew

Looking very good, you could try model aircraft/ RC shops. My local one stocks metal rods of all sizes but brass?

You could ask Phil at Hobby Holidays but postage may be the issue as max length of Royal mail is 90cm
 
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Hi Andrew,

I have just done a quick Google search for 0.4mm steel wire and there are several sellers, some do rolls of it and some do straight lengths.
 
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The coaches are quite fun, but I am a newbie. We have been waiting for a metal chassis for van 23 to be supplied from Woody Bay, The body parts been rebuilt/refurbished and are stored. The new design (old chassis was made in wood) necessities the body be built on the chassis, rather than as an independent structure

We now have started on coach number 9, again will be built on a steel chassis which has been put out to tender, Last year we brought all the pews from a church in Ipswich. Resulting is several tons of pitch pine. From memory the roof timbers have been cut, painted and in store, Interior panels have been cut and a few of us are painting them, at the same time others are constructing the slatted seats (lots of shaping to form the counters) and these are about to be assembled.

A big shopping list is being created for the main structural timbers which will be made from Iroko.

I have been told a coach usually takes 2 years to build, but this is dependant on funds and manpower. Van 23 is needed now and we have been asked to build coach no 9 for use on the new extension to Parracombe. The extension is held up in planning consent with Exmoor Parks.
 
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Does anyone know where I can get 0.4mm steel wire in yard lengths, now that Eileens has gone?
@Andrew Duncan

Hi Andrew,

Try searching for "piano wire" (assuming you want hard wire?)

Lots of suppliers -- this one has 0.35mm dia in metre lengths:

https://www.modelshopleeds.co.uk/ca...?cPath=136_1026_489&sort=1a&products_id=42164

p.s. don't try to cut piano wire with Xuron track cutters or similar modelling/electronics snips. It is too hard and will wreck them. You need hardened side cutters.

Layout looking good. (y)

cheers,

Martin.
 
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@Andrew Duncan

Hi Andrew,

Try searching for "piano wire" (assuming you want hard wire?)

Lots of suppliers -- this one has 0.35mm dia in metre lengths:

https://www.modelshopleeds.co.uk/ca...?cPath=136_1026_489&sort=1a&products_id=42164

p.s. don't try to cut piano wire with Xuron track cutters or similar modelling/electronics snips. It is too hard and will wreck them. You need hardened side cutters.

Layout looking good. (y)

cheers,

Martin.

Even hardened side cutters can struggle with piano wire. A cut-off wheel in a Dremel or similar is another option. Just grind a notch in the wire and bend it till it breaks.
 
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Piano tuners don't use a Dremel to cut piano wire.

I would recommend a proper wire cuter such as the ones made by Maun.
Compound action helps a lot. Some models will cut 2.5mm piano wire happily.
A good, long lasting investment.

You can find cutters that will handle over 3mm if you need to cut piano wire of that diameter.

These are a damn sight safer to use than a rotating disc. Quieter too.

Regards, Matt M.
 
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@Andrew Duncan

Hi Andrew,

Try searching for "piano wire" (assuming you want hard wire?)

Lots of suppliers -- this one has 0.35mm dia in metre lengths:

https://www.modelshopleeds.co.uk/ca...?cPath=136_1026_489&sort=1a&products_id=42164

p.s. don't try to cut piano wire with Xuron track cutters or similar modelling/electronics snips. It is too hard and will wreck them. You need hardened side cutters.

Layout looking good. (y)

cheers,

Martin.
John, Phil, Martin and Andy
Thank you all for your various recommendations on piano (apparently) wire which I'm looking into, and Matt for your thoughts on the Maun cutters(tempted by them!).

In the last few days I've also made a start on my first EM loco, an 1854 Class Saddle tank. Its a Wills model with an etched chassis, Gibson Wheels, a High Level gearbox, a coreless motor, and a Zimo sound chip. Not sure what Zimo are supplying these days ( I haven't built a new engine in years and I don't have any chips in stock, so I shall have to go looking.

Andrew
 
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Hello Igor
I'm fine thanks for checking on me. Just rebuilding some parts of my life that by necessity have had to change and take a lot more of my time than previously when Babette was here(alive). I'm feeling at the moment that I'm gradually getting on more even plain...a little more predictable .... But its taking more time than I predicted.... that's life I suppose...

Below is a photo of the last baseboard awaiting TLC in our living room.....

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Thanks again for your message.

Kind regards
Andrew
 
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