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TEMPLOT 3D PLUG TRACK - To get up to speed with this experimental project click here.   To watch an introductory video click here.   See the User Guide at Bexhill West.

  • The Plug Track functions are experimental and still being developed. Some of the earlier pages of this topic are now out-of-date.

    For an updated overview of this project see this topic.   For some practical modelling aspects of using Plug Track see Building 3D Track.

    The assumption is that you have your own machines on which to experiment, or helpful friends with machines. Please do not send Templot files to commercial laser cutting or 3D printing firms while this project is still experimental, because the results are unpredictable and possibly wasteful.

    Some pages of this and other topics include contributions from members who are creating and posting their own CAD designs for 3D printing and laser-cutting. Do not confuse them with Templot's own exported CAD files. All files derived from Templot are © Martin Wynne.
  • The Plug Track functions are experimental and still being developed.

    For an updated overview of this project see this topic.   For some practical modelling aspects of using Plug Track see Building 3D Track.

    The assumption is that you have your own machines on which to experiment, or helpful friends with machines. Please do not send Templot files to commercial laser cutting or 3D printing firms while this project is still experimental, because the results are unpredictable and possibly wasteful.

    Some pages of this and other topics include contributions from members who are creating and posting their own CAD designs for 3D printing and laser-cutting. Do not confuse them with Templot's own exported CAD files. All files derived from Templot are © Martin Wynne.

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Enjoy using Templot?
Thanks.

Please do not send requests for help direct to me via email.

Post your questions on the forum where everyone can see them and add
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Welcome to this new home for Templot Club. :)


For an explanation of why we are here, see: https://85a.co.uk/forum/view_topic.php?id=3837&forum_id=2

I have lots of plans!

Unfortunately I'm as new here as everyone else, so finding out exactly how to do things is taking time. Please bear with me if the pages go a bit awry at times.

Simply copying the entire 13-years-worth of the old site across here isn't very practical technically, and wouldn't be sensible anyway because it contains a lot of Templot stuff which is now out-of-date, and a lot of transient day-to-day stuff which is pointless keeping.

What I'm planning to do is to create a searchable static archive from the old site, which will be easy to find from here. I've barely started on that yet, so exactly how it will work is still undecided. But for the time being it is all still accessible on the old site at https://85a.co.uk/forum

Martin.
 
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Hi Martin,

How many and what types of attachments are allowed per post?

Can we now add both a .box and its accompanying .bgs file to the same post?

Edit: just tried it. .box, .bgs3 and .sk9 are allowed. Attempting to load a project from 2017 didn't work as they're still in the older file formats
 
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Hi Martin,

How many and what types of attachments are allowed per post?

Can we now add both a .box and its accompanying .bgs file to the same post?

Edit: just tried it. .box, .bgs3 and .sk9 are allowed. Attempting to load a project from 2017 didn't work as they're still in the older file formats

Hi David,

Current settings are:

Max number of attachments per post = 10

Max file size of any one attachment = 15MB

Allowed file types:

zip
txt
pdf
png
jpg
jpeg
jpe
gif
webp
bmp
box
mecbox
bgs3
sk9
bgs
sk81
dxf

I will add more as needed. Unfortunately, unlike on UltraBB, they are not listed on the actual posting page. I will try to fix that -- so many little details like that still to fix. :(

Martin.
 
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There are so many small details which over the years I got working on the old UltraBB forum, but I now have to fix all over again.

For example, in the email notifications, if you view your email as plain text or simplified HTML, the quoted text is not indicated and separated from the actual reply, making it difficult to read. I will get that fixed in due course.

Martin.
 
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Unfortunately,unlike on UltraBB, they are not listed on the actual posting page. I will try to fix that -- so many little details like that still to fix. :(
Hi Martin,

When attempting to upload a file the user is presented with 2 choices in a dropdown: "Custom Files" or "All Files"
templotclubuploads-1.png


Hovering over "Custom Files" shows the whole list of allowed types (if your screen is wide enough). This list also acts as a filter when browsing for files so you can't even find the non-allowed types.
templotclubuploads-2.png


I used "All Files" to upload a non-allowed filetype and then got told that it wasn't allowed :cry::
templotclubuploads-3.png
(No, I do not want .ipt files added to the list - just using the file as an example).

Hope this helps as I know from experience that what a typical user can see and do is often significantly different from an Administrator's view.
 
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Thanks David.

I'm logged in as "test_user" in a different browser, so that I can see the normal view. But there's still a lot to take in.

I see that XF is using the standard Windows file dialog to filter the file types. That's not entirely clear to a new user, it would be helpful to see a list before clicking the Attach files button. But it can wait for now. :)

cheers,

Martin.
 
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Just bumping this topic. More stuff here later today.

I'm a bit puzzled why the What's new section has gone blank. Perhaps I need to change the definition of "new" somewhere.

Martin.
 
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Just bumping this topic. More stuff here later today.

I'm a bit puzzled why the What's new section has gone blank. Perhaps I need to change the definition of "new" somewhere.

Martin.
Hello Martin,
How long have you been a "Staff member"?
Best wishes.
Trevor.:)
 
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Hello Martin,
How long have you been a "Staff member"?
Best wishes.
Trevor.:)

Hi Trevor,

I don't know, but it's about time the rest of the staff showed up to lend a hand!

I have been trying to remove that banner, so far without joy. :(

cheers,

Martin.
 
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Hi Martin,
Can you tell me how I can make certain I get an email notification about new posts in any forum (like the old one :))
I thought I had set all forums to watched but I've only had 1 email notification (PDF files for printing) since the changeover.
I also seem to have got watched forums and watched threads mixed up.
Many thanks
Charles
 
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Hi Charles,

You can see what you are watching, from the presence of the bell icon in the lists:

index.php


For setting up email, see:

https://85a.co.uk/forum/view_topic.php?id=3839&forum_id=1&jump_to=31676#p31676

Also make sure that emails are not going into your spam bins. Emails from here are from "Templot Club" -- you may want to add that to your white list.

Ask again if still no joy. Did you receive an email for this reply?

cheers,

Martin.
 
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Hi Martin,
I am receiving emails when everybody else posts either a new thread or replies to an existing one ( on the forums I am watching ). When I start a new thread I get an email too but I don't get one when I post to a thread. This isn't an issue but is that what should happen ?

I get an email when a Templot thread is started by somebody else but for some reason Gmail ( set up in it'sThread mode so it groups emails from the same address ) puts the notification of replies to that thread as if they were from a different email address even though they aren't. I am guessing that it checks not just the email add that a message if from but also the subject line.

I whitelisted Templot's email address in Gmail as some of the early emails were ending up in Spam, but maybe I need to do it for different Templot email subject lines rather than just the email address.

The Southern coach green bit is the only question for you. The rest is just me waffling on........

Rob
 
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Martin,
I get this on some emails from the new Templot forum :-
gmail test1.jpg


The filter is the one that says messages from templot@85a.uk are not Spam.

Rob

P.S. Inserting an image is much better on the new forum than the old one.
 
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Hi Martin,
I am receiving emails when everybody else posts either a new thread or replies to an existing one ( on the forums I am watching ). When I start a new thread I get an email too but I don't get one when I post to a thread. This isn't an issue but is that what should happen ?
Hi Rob,

Unlike the old UltraBB board, most forum software does not send you an email notification of your own activity.

Which seems logical, but is actually very irritating -- it means you can't create your own email archive of a complete thread if your own contributions to it are missing.

If you are receiving email notifications for starting a new thread you are doing better than me. :(

Bear in mind that I have been in and messed with the XF code to remove the requirement to visit the board between emails. In the process I may have changed the logic on this -- it's a complex chunk of code and ideally needed more extensive testing.

Sorry I know nothing about Gmail or it's threading or spam functions. I noticed that it was with a Gmail address that Phil had problems registering.

cheers,

Martin.
 
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P.S. Inserting an image is much better on the new forum than the old one.

You are the second one to say that.

I find it significantly worse. For example unless I'm missing something there is no easy way to include one of your previous images in a new post. It's necessary to open the Media or go to the previous post (in a new tab), then right-click on the image to get the URL, and then return to the first tab and use BBCode img tags to insert it. It's 10 times easier just to upload it again. Which wastes disk space on the server, and clutters the Media section with duplicate images.

But life is always a trade-off. I dare say we shall survive. When we have been going a bit longer I might have a few expeditions into the XF files (there are over 5,000 of them) and see if I can improve the working (or wreck it).

cheers,

Martin.
 
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Hi Charles,

You can see what you are watching, from the presence of the bell icon in the lists:

index.php


For setting up email, see:

https://85a.co.uk/forum/view_topic.php?id=3839&forum_id=1&jump_to=31676#p31676

Also make sure that emails are not going into your spam bins. Emails from here are from "Templot Club" -- you may want to add that to your white list.

Ask again if still no joy. Did you receive an email for this reply?

cheers,

Martin.
Hi Martin,
I've solved the problem.
All the emails were going to my spam bin.
All seems to be working OK now.
Many thanks
Charles
 
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Hi Martin

I've had a quick look but haven't so far seen if it's possible to continue previous threads other than by re-creating it here, and jumping to and from the old site to refer to what was previously written - is that right?
 
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Hi Martin

I've had a quick look but haven't so far seen if it's possible to continue previous threads other than by re-creating it here, and jumping to and from the old site to refer to what was previously written - is that right?
Hi Julian,

No, you can't continue previous threads directly. You need to start a fresh one, and include a link to the old one.

I'm in the process of creating a searchable archive of previous topics from the old forum -- there will be a mechanism to add a continuation link to them to a new thread on here. However, all that is a lot of work (over 3,600 topics) and I'm still in the middle of it. Click Archive at the top of this page to see how far I have got. :)

At present you can add to your existing topics on the old forum, but note that anything new added there now will NOT be included in the archive, so there is not much point in adding it. Likewise any edits to the existing posts will not be included. In the fullness of time the old forum will disappear into thin air.

cheers,

Martin.
 
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There are so many small details which over the years I got working on the old UltraBB forum, but I now have to fix all over again.

For example, in the email notifications, if you view your email as plain text or simplified HTML, the quoted text is not indicated and separated from the actual reply, making it difficult to read. I will get that fixed in due course.

Martin.

I have now fixed this. Quoted text in emails now appears between |== and ==| delimiters.

As you should be seeing if you are reading this in an email client in plain text or simplified HTML.

One more item off the list. It's a long list. :(

Martin.
 
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I’m not sure what the iOS Mail client uses to display emails, but from my perspective nothing has changed, but nor does it need to!
 

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I’m not sure what the iOS Mail client uses to display emails, but from my perspective nothing has changed, but nor does it need to!
Hi Paul,

I know nothing about iOS, but I can see that you have your email client set to display emails as original HTML. That could be a bit risky if you receive spam or scam emails. Plain text makes it a lot easier to spot scam URLs. Presumably you can change the setting in iOS?

In Thunderbird it is at View > Message Body As > menu options.

It has however changed -- see the new delimiter (in small grey text in original HTML): :)

email_delimiter.png


cheers,

Martin.
 
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Hi Martin,

Hmm, at a quick look, I can’t see how to turn off HTML. I actually get very few scam emails though, and Apple’s filters seem to be pretty good. Unfortunately, too good as they “silent filter” so sometimes I don’t even know if a genuine email has been blocked, although it transpires that most email providers do that these days, to varying extents.

Mind you, I keep looking for an alternative mail client for iOS, but there are none that I really like.

Cheers,
Paul
 
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Hi Martin

I know it's only a little thing, but can we have a pretty icon like the old forum used to have, please? I'd got used to looking for the bright yellow icon, now we have a boring grey rectangle!

Cheers,
Paul
 

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Hi Martin

I know it's only a little thing, but can we have a pretty icon like the old forum used to have, please? I'd got used to looking for the bright yellow icon, now we have a boring grey rectangle!

Hi Paul,

Done, assuming you mean the yellow hard-hat favicon.

It was on my list, thanks for the nudge.

p.s. You may have to press CTRL+F5 several times before your browser agrees to display it. Or maybe wait 24 hours.

cheers,

Martin.
 
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yes, I did mean the yellow hard hat!
Hi Paul,

Here you go:

White - for managers, foremen, engineers or supervisors.
Green - for safety inspectors, new or probationary workers.
Yellow - for general labourers or earth-moving operators.
Brown - for those involved in high-heat applications such as welders.
Blue - for carpenters, electricians and other technical operators.


:)

Martin.
 
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Hi Guys,

I appreciate having an icon but have two objections to the yellow hat;

1) It is now nor possible to distinguish between the old and the new Templot Club

2) I have always worn a white hat and don't feel I should be humiliated by having to have a yellow hat, people will think I have to work for a living.

Disgusted Crawley
 
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Hi Paul,

Returning to this topic, another reason not to display emails as HTML. Posted just now:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56071437

cheers,

Martin.
Hi Martin

They're not quite as insidious as the BBC article makes out, and not really a problem in themselves - the problem is when they're used without people's consent or knowledge. Essentially, when the email is opened it requests any images from the sender's server, and it's that request that's tracked to record that the email has been opened, as well as the IP address requesting the image. No personal data is tracked. The tracking pixel just reduces the number of images that the sender wants to track, with a bit of filtering. Even then, the information gained is minimal - as my location often comes up as Belgium, for some reason, it's not going to pinpoint me! Simply disabling remote image download stops that, but then when I get an email from Hornby offering shiny new toys, I don't get to see them (which is probably a good thing!)

By simply walking around with a mobile phone, far more information is gathered about your movements and habits! Anyone who uses Facebook is sharing a huge amount of information. I feel so that as long as I know what information is being gathered about me, and I've considered its implications, then I'm not too concerned. It's knowing about it that's important, so that we can make an informed decision on whether or not to accept them.

Cheers,
Paul
 
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