What's on my workbench

Hayfield

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A bit more work today, not as much as I had hoped but we went on a 4 mile walk on muddy footpaths, so had a doze on my return
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I am trying to get a bit of added detail rather than just a few chopped up chairs. I noticed that the style of slide chairs is quite noticeable with the turnouts using Pandrol fixings. Whilst not correct these do show up a difference, I am also trying to show something to reflect block chairs, again not accurate just a representation
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Just a bit different and may need a tweak or two with the details

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Whilst there are no check rails a quick test. Running a bit short on parts, I must have 2 or 3 k of chairs but running short of Peco Pandrol clips and the new C&L 2 & 3 bolt chairs, waiting for deliveries
 
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Andrew Duncan

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Reigate
Hi Andrew.
I would be surprised if the Warships out of Waterloo were on the Portsmouth trains as they were generally used on the west of England services to Exeter. I had several trips behind them to visit relatives in Axminster and can vouch from personal experience that do break down occasionally.

Regards
Tony.
Hello Tony
Well you are not the first person to challenge my memory, and you certainly won't be the last, but in my minds eye I see them trundling down the line along with CEPS and with EMU that we referred to as Portsmouth stock, were they 4 CORs? wonderful old corridor stock that swayed violently especially in the trailing coach but were so much more luxurious than VEPs CEPs etc.
Andrew
 
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Andrew Duncan

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Reigate
Hi Andrew,

I don't possess a gauge. :)

The 00-SF standard is for 16.2mm track gauge with 1.0mm flangeways ("EM minus 2"), see: https://85a.uk/00-sf

It's not mine, it was invented by Roy Miller in the1970s.

There is also a standard called EM-SF for 18.0mm track gauge with 0.8mm flangeways. I believe Rob is having a go with it. I think John may have built something in it too -- he builds everything. :)

cheers,

Martin.

That's a shame Martin, you ought to have at least one gauge named after you or to your credit! You were the first person to make me aware of it though, hence the link. And yes I think you and Rob are correct, that I'm getting confused with EM-SF.

Andrew
 
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Martin Wynne

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That's a shame Martin, you ought to have at least one gauge named after you

I do have Andrew, it's called T-55. :)

scale: 5.5mm/ft or 1:55
gauge: 1 inch
flangeway: 1 mm

There is in fact a 5.5mm society: https://www.55ng.co.uk

You may remember that George Mellor produced some GEM white-metal kits for 3ft narrow-gauge on 16.5mm track, and 2ft-3in narrow-gauge on 12mm track.

Over the years several folks have declared an intention to build a T-55 layout, although I don't think anyone ever did. Over to John? :)

cheers,

Martin.
 
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Hayfield

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Essex
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A bit more progress today plus I was able to collect some more Pandrol clips. Before progressing with diamond I will finish off the turnouts, none have any check rails
 
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Hayfield

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Essex
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I use much the same method of fitting the check rails as I do with bullhead track, but I don't use check rail chairs. The photos I have seen with Pandrol turnouts the check rail clips are still Pandrol. I only fit 2 fixings on each stock rail, once set I cut off the inside part of the chairs

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Next I superglue 3 part chairs (leaving all the foot of the chair on) not half chairs

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The check rails are glued in place with check rail gauges. Every 00 gauge track builder should have a set of these. they are sold as 00SF gauges but also fit 00BF (universal 00) DOGS universal so no excuse for anyone
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Half chairs/the bits cut off for the check rail chairs added
 

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Tony W

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North Notts
Hello Tony
Well you are not the first person to challenge my memory, and you certainly won't be the last, but in my minds eye I see them trundling down the line along with CEPS and with EMU that we referred to as Portsmouth stock, were they 4 CORs? wonderful old corridor stock that swayed violently especially in the trailing coach but were so much more luxurious than VEPs CEPs etc.
Andrew
Hi Andrew.
Yes 4CORs, together with 4BUFs and occasionally 4GRIs known collectively as Nelson's. I too remember their tendency to sway violently at times.

EDIT:
When steam was being run down on the southern, the SR were loaned a small batch of WR Brush type 4s for use on the Bournemouth line trains before the full electric service began. I photographed one of these at Waterloo whilst waiting for our train west.
I previously stated that they were brought in for use on the Southampton boat trains. It would not surprise me if they were occasionally put to such use, but their primary function was as stop gap motive power for the Bournemouth line.
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Regards
Tony.
 
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Hayfield

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Essex
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The latest piece on my workbench ia GWR facing crossover, I am using the new C&L GWR 2 bolt chairs and Modelu slide chairs, and doing my best to simulate some of the special chairs
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I have cut the centre parts of the Exactoscale check chairs using 2 outer C&L 2 bolt chairs
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And as you can see used a slab and bracket chair from the Exactoscale range along with centre parts of some of the block chairs
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I am using the Modelu GWR slide chairs and some of the Exactoscale block chairs (again centre parts only)
 
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Hayfield

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Essex
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A close up of the switch which is a GWR 14' heal, I have tried to make a best effort using the parts available, as no one makes the correct parts
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The first switch timber is yet to be built, as its a timber-tiebar, the second timber will have a switch rail added once the switch rails have been soldered
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1PL & 2PL chairs are a combination of a 2 bolt chair and a slide chair spliced together
3PL & 4PL have Exactoscale block chair centres and C&L 2 bolt outers
Rail joints are notches and etched fishplates, then we have bridge and standard chairs (for S1 read 2 bolt)
 
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Hayfield

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Essex
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Finishing off the crossover, one request was that the rail joints were replicated and in the correct position. Temporary short rail lengths have been added, these will be replaced with a correct length panel with the correct number of timbers missing

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In the background is a Wills Finecast 202 etched chassis used to test the track, its very free wheeling and useful. But may be destined for a DJH kit

A closer view showing the C&L fishplates being used functionally, brown chair parts are Exactoscale, more or less as in one of the illustrations in the GWR track book
 
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Daifly

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I don't knw if I'm alone in this but I find that the images that you're posting are very small and the very low image resolution makes scaling the photos fruitless to be able to see what's going on. The image info suggests that you are using an iPhone 7 and are probably posting 'small' images. Perhaps 'medium' would be more helpful to those of us with aging eyes! Thanks.
Dave
 
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Hayfield

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Essex
Dave

Yes its an iPhone and I send them in a medium size. I tried to send then the next one up and overfills the areas. I will take a couple more and send them in a higher quality format

Owing to their colour the C&L chairs are not very photogenic
 
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Hayfield

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Essex
For those who wanted a higher resolution photos I have retaken 3.

Components:- Timbers are from Exactoscale, chairs & plastic fishplates are the new C&L 2 bolt version, slide chairs Modelu 3D printed. Etched fishplates are EMGS. Rail C&L HiNi. Extra chair details Exactoscale

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A shot of the switch area The first two slide chair positions are waiting to be finished, the missing timber will be a copperclad timber-tiebar, with brass slide chairs to allow the timber to be used as a tiebar, slide chairs left off the 2nd timber until after the switch blades have been soldered to the slide chairs.

Chair positions 1PL & 2PL made from cut down standard and slide chairs, 3PL & 4PL have Exactoscale centre parts of the switch block chairs (brown) with standard 2 bolt chairs either side.

You could hinge the switch blade using either Exactoscale or C&L cast brass or plastic fishplates if preferred

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A closer view of 3PL & 4PL. The rails are notched with etched fishplates added. The stock rail has 1 L1 chair( bridge) then standard 2 bolts, the switch rail has 2 L1 chairs followed by 2 bolts

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Closer view of the common crossings. The brown fishplates are the new C&L plastic functional, these are the standard ones and seem a bit finer than the Exactoscale, reinforced fishplates are also available. The outer and inner chairs are standard 2 bolt chairs cut in half, the Exception being the slab and bracket chair and the centre parts of the block chairs in positions C & Y using Exactoscale chairs. Again L1 chairs used where appropriate

The short lengths of rail are used for building purposes, they will be replaced with 60' rails

I will add photos of the timber-tiebar when I make them
 
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roythebus

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Kent
The trackwork looks like platform 15/16 (the last 2 on the south side) where there's a double junction onto the Brighton lines. There's a short spur to a dead end should anything decide not to stop at the signal! It will find the brick wall supporting Lavender Hill bridge.
 
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Hi John,
If you are doing the Windsor lines at Clapham Junction (ie platforms 1-6) you may lknow that there was an unelectrified loop between platforms 2 and 3 . It had connections to both tracks either side. At the Waterloo end the centre line ended in a genuine 'Y' point where both switch rails were normally kep open to derail anything that tried to leave the loop siding when it shouldn't. Unfortumately I never took a photograph of it, and the layout was altered for the London Overground services.
 
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