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... : 15 Mar 2010 19:00 from: Dellboy polybear wrote: Hi all, If a length of plain trackwork is made by placing sleepers in a straight jig (based on Templot sleeper spacings) and then attaching one rail (by whatever is your chosen method) to those sleepers, then if that piece of trackwork is removed from the jig and subsequently curved and placed over a curved Templot Template then can anyone tell me if the Sleepers will now match the positions on the curved template Brian In the real world providing the outside rail (of the curve) is the rail soldered first then the sleeper spacings will be correct. This is based on a standard 60 foot track panel. The inner rail (of the curve) would have to be suitably shortened to maintain square rail joints at the end(s) of the panel. Templot should reflect the resultant sleeper spacings on a curved template but I do not know if this is the case. Derek posted: 15 Mar 2010 20:00 from: Martin Wynne Dellboy wrote: Templot should ...
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... item. You can't move the 2nd crossing too far as the check rail will conflict with the 3rd crossing. regards, Martin. The Check rail fouls the closure by 1.185mm or actual 3 1/2". I was unsure wether to shorten the flare by 6" or to use the method shown in the photo. A nice set of reference photo's BTW. All I did for the timbering was to go from Equalized- Incremental to square on to main road and lengthen and throw the timbers to get the correct amount outside the running rails. The spacing is what Templot came up with. There is enough room to get a packing bar or Kango between the timbers except where those two timbers overlap. I will have a look at adjusting the 2nd crossing after tea if there is time. Many Thanks Phil I will have a look at adjusting the 2nd crossing angle after tea. Thanks for the tip. posted: 5 Apr 2010 12:39 from: Phil O Hi All This I hope is the final incarnation of this tandem turnout. ...
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... infomation, very informative. That diagram actually shows through timbers right back to the Closure Rails/Crossing joints. I have gone for more of a practical comprise, which I'm sure they would have on site. 1522_220214_580000000.png Thanks for every ones thoughts Regards Dave posted: 22 Apr 2010 08:33 from: Martin Wynne David wrote: That diagram actually shows through timbers right back to the Closure Rails/Crossing joints. Hi Dave, The limiting condition is not the position within the turnout, but the proximity of the adjacent rails outside the turnout. Long timbers tend not to be used where the space to the next set of rails is more than about 3ft-ish. Two shorter timbers, or a timber and a sleeper, would be used instead. This means that your crossover with widened track spacing requires fewer long timbers -- but each one is longer than the 19ft-6in shown in that diagram. As the tracks widen further, the number of long timbers needed gets fewer, but the timbers get longer. If the crossover is sufficiently ...
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... into a new one for another try. When you have successfully twisted a bitmap image to the correct angle, it is useful to save it from Templot and then open it in a program such as Windows Paint to crop off the unwanted white corners. Then create a new picture shape to contain it and complete the process of shifting it into alignment with the others. If the FONTS/ COLOURS tab> PAD SHAPES LINE WIDTH option is set to 1, any border lines are entirely within the image area, not around the outside of it. This means that when aligning two images side-by-side with the mouse action, the border lines should also be side-by-side, not overlapping. (If the line width is set to more than 1, the border lines should overlap by half the additional width.) When aligning images it may be helpful to de-select the borders (PICTURE SHAPES tab). N.B. Please bear in mind that Templot is not fully-fledged graphics imaging software- this "bare- ...
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205. Despair
... that want something better than the other "design" packages offer. I am in the second camp as I want to create my railroad exactly as it was designed, that being with flowing trackwork not limited by #5 or #6 turnouts. When I found Templot I thought all of my prayers had been answered but did not expect the learning curve that it required. I would say I have actually owned Templot for a few years now and have never created anything concrete in it. My bad on that front as various outside influences have stopped me sitting down for any great length of time. Yes, I am from the Windows world as I am a software developer in 4GL languages and have been weened on the M$ way of doing things. Now I am on my 8th layout design I will force myself to get to know Templot a little better so I can do justice to the paper plan when it comes time to lay track. Oh, and as for that Ferrari- couldn't have one of those in my area, the hoons ...
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... 26 Aug 2010 22:31 from: Martin Wynne Hi Robert, There are several possible solutions, but the simplest is two transition curve templates: 2_261703_520000001.png These have a common radius of about 1315mm at the centre, reducing to about 1120mm radius at the outer ends. I created them using the "make transition" function, described in this tutorial: http://www.templot.com/martweb/info_files/make_trans.htm First I did tools> make branch track on the turnout templates. Then I positioned a dummy template (blue) outside of them using the F10 swell mouse action: 2_261703_510000000.png Then use "make transition" to the dummy template to create each transition curve template. It needs a bit of fiddling about with the radii -- the curves must come as close together as possible without actually touching, and they must do it at locations well clear of the centre section, and clear of the turnouts. Otherwise the resulting transition zones will be too long and/or overlap each other or the turnouts. If you have not used "make transition ...
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... . The diamond crossing to the mileage siding looks very odd, but as I haven't seen the prototype plan, I guess it must be right Otherwise, to my inexperienced eye, it looks good- smooth curves and transitions a-plenty. regards Paul posted: 18 Nov 2010 18:00 from: Richard Spratt Compared to the other scenic curves the curve to fiddle yard bottom right looks tight. It's even tighter then we are considering on Awrhyllgwami where we don't have anywhere as much width available. Don't you need a crossover outside the fiddle yard at the left hand end? posted: 19 Nov 2010 18:17 from: newport_rod Paul and Richard- Thanks for your comments. The two short sidings are intended for a railcar (GWR angular banana type) and a 0-4 -2 and a push-pull coach. In fact I've had to modify them as they couldn't get out onto the up line- this is probably why Richard suggested the need for a (presumably trailing) crossover, We could have put a crossover in but ...
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... posted: 9 Feb 2011 08:44 from: Martin Wynne Hi Gordon, The radius showing as "minimum radius now" is the smallest radius anywhere in the template. For a straight A-5 turnout in 00-SF with a regular V-crossing, the smallest radius is 597mm (to the track centre-line) -- as you would expect, it's in the diverging turnout radius between the heel of the switch and the V-crossing. When inserted in a 1000mm ruling curve, diverging to the outside of the curve, the resultant diverging turnout radius in such a situation is actually greater than that at 1484mm. The smaller radius of the two is in the main road at 1000mm, so Templot shows that as the "minimum radius now". That's actually a very ugly turnout. If it is not part of a crossover it can be much improved by changing to a curviform V-crossing instead of regular, which increases the turnout radius to 2510mm. Changing to a 9ft switch instead of an A switch is a ...
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... topic: 1298 New User of Templot posted: 1 Dec 2010 13:00 from: couzenss Martin, Using the Y point tuturial I have produced this OK and then added further templates to this successfully. But I have a problem in that these are running outside the printable area of the drawing pad. Note I developed the Y point on the initial start position on the Drawing Pad Is it possible to move this group of templates on the drawing pad, both from a printing point of view and also to allow further developement of this plan. Thank You Stuart posted: 1 Dec 2010 13:25 from: phileakins Hi Stuart Probably the quickest way is to create a group with all the templates (ctrl+ a) and then move the group with the mouse (shift+ ctrl+ f7- or select from the Group menu which is easier!) then ctrl+ y to cancel the group. I expect someone will be along later to tell you how to move the pad origin as I can't get it to work. Phil posted ...
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... background shape and then bend it somehow. Grateful for any advice. Regards, Steve posted: 21 Jan 2011 21:47 from: Martin Wynne Steve Evans wrote: I assume that I would just load the template plan without the background shape and then bend it somehow. Grateful for any advice. Hi Steve, Sorry to disappoint you, but this isn't possible. The trackwork on the inside of the bend would get crunched up to fit, and would no longer be prototypical and possibly not even buildable. Likewise on the outside of the bend the trackwork would all get stretched out, with similar results. Templot would need to be massively more complex and intelligent to sort it all out by itself. More about this subject in this topic: topic 348 Unless this is a very complex track plan, it shouldn't take you too long to re-align everything onto new curved centre-lines. There is a video showing how to do that in this topic: topic 349 regards, Martin. posted: 22 Jan 2011 10:10 from: ...
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... topic: 1363 Diamond crossings with transition curves posted: 7 Feb 2011 20:11 from: Paulr1949 Hello The title says it really- I am almost at the last stage of creating the templates for a proposed new club layout, and have to create two double junctions and they are in transition curves. See the screenshots below (I hope!) 1913_071503_460000000.png and a close up of the one I've attempted to do 1913_071508_470000000.png This one is actually (I think) outside the transition curve. I have tried quite a number of times to get this working but am having serious problems getting the angle of the crossing anywhere near the right one! I must be doing something silly- can anyone help. Another problem coming up) Paul posted: 8 Feb 2011 09:52 from: Alan Turner Templot dosen't do what you want at present. The easiest way is to simply overlay the two curves and then hand sketch the crossings on the printed template. There is a topic on here that takes you through the steps of making what you want. ...
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... one of the turnouts leading to the inside of the main curve, and then click template> invert handing menu item or press CTRL+ X. Then F9 mouse action to slide it into position. Because of the contraflexure the radii will be eased, and you will probably find that you can shorten the turnout to a smaller size (F5) without infringing your minimum radius, and so perhaps fit in an extra fiddle yard track. If you really do want the main road of the turnout to run straight off to the outside of the ruling curve, you need to adjust the substitution radius (external geometrical radius) for the turnout. There is a video showing how to do that for exactly the situation you describe, at: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/subs_rad.exe but using contraflexure is 10 times easier and much more prototypical. regards, Martin. posted: 7 Feb 2011 21:10 from: Paulr1949 Hi Martin Thank you for the speedy reply. There is one place on each side where I think I need a ...
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... the notch. 3. Move/draw the pen to the spacing-ring. I've quickly made a bit of Jing video -- sorry it's so scruffy, ignore the mistake in the middle. Allow a few seconds to download. Zoom in closer when you try it, so that you can actually see the notch and the ring. regards, Martin. posted: 9 Feb 2011 13:26 from: Martin Wynne p.s. Gordon, If you need longer lines extending beyond the track ends, make double-track outside your curve. Draw to that template, then delete it. There are other ways of doing the same thing. For example you could peg dummy centre-line-only straight templates at each end of your curve, and then rotate each one by 90 degrees. They should intersect on the radial centre, and you can adjust the lengths of each using F4. You can change all the printed line thicknesses at print> printed line thicknesses> set any. Martin. posted: 1 Mar 2011 10:06 from ...
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214. "Plan Y"
... spent almost a week working on a grand plan for a friend who is looking to have a re-design of his current garden railway which will involve putting more of the railway into a building. This will allow for running more months of the year than current. Templates aren't all finished as I have quite a bit of timber shoving to do! Attachment: attach_1007_1429_Plan_Y __11_03_21_2332_01.box 707 Last edited on 22 Mar 2011 01:00 by Ian Allen posted: 23 Mar 2011 09:51 from: roythebus Looks good, what happens outside? posted: 24 Mar 2011 11:27 from: BeamEnds It's probably as intended, but.... in 'winter mode' you can't get back to the terminus in the middle without setting back- is that meant to be? posted: 24 Mar 2011 19:10 from: Ian Allen At bottom right of the plan are the connecting lines to another "shed", double track to a mainline station, inside double track rising to a high level station for the "electric" services, and three ...
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... topic: 1453 Who Needs Accuracy? :-) posted: 14 Apr 2011 16:44 from: Jim Guthrie http://www.realmilitaryvideos.com/wwii-allies/oss-training-film-derailment/ Jim. posted: 14 Apr 2011 17:31 from: Martin Wynne Hi Jim, Many thanks for the link. A little more thought needed there. Why choose straight track? Even a short gap in the outside rail of a curve would have done the trick. regards, Martin. posted: 15 Apr 2011 14:12 from: Roger Henry The footage has been incorporated into a DVD set entitled "Trains at War". An interesting cimpilation. The crew on a Queensland passenger train, The Midlander, radioed the loco crew complaining that they were riding a bit rough at the back end. The driver stopped the train and it was found that the rear coach was derailed and been so for some miles. Yes, I know, speed and Queensland trains are not usually synonomous :-) Roger Parts of Templot Club ...
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... -one can use it because you can't see which letter to press. regards, Martin. posted: 22 May 2011 12:39 from: JFS Well, having had a bit of a play, I have to say that the irregular diamond feature is everything I had hoped for and more. Just by over laying two curved tracks, converted them to a diamond, inserting two turnouts and doing a bit of Ctrl+ F9/ F9 (which I really like) on them and I had the geometry of an irregular outside single slip in about 5 minutes flat! This is VERY powerful stuff! Now to try a few more buttons... Best Wishes, Howard posted: 22 May 2011 19:48 from: Richard Spratt Looks like you've copied some of my iPad code. ;-) Excellent. But I sometimes get a pale blue screen with a yellow circle and white square inside the circle with templates visible. All of the usual menus etc are visible: 68_221447_200000000.jpg posted: 22 May 2011 20:53 from: Martin Wynne ...
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... topic: 1576 Switched diamond& double slip posted: 26 Jul 2011 15:58 from: Raymond I noticed when looking up elbow crossings in David Smiths' book on page 45 Fig 26, that the GW used a sort of guard rail outside the moveable switches. Since my proposed loft layout has two switched diamonds, that are also double slips, I thought I'd have a go at fabricating them in Templot using partial templates. Here is the result drawn using a crossing rail suitable shortened. It is placed using F7 and then F8 manipulate it into position, just keep swapping the control end. That does for the straight one, (not shewn) but to get curved ones correctly fitted needed F6 of course and Control F10 to get the curve to fit snugly. Not the problem I thought it was going to be. Regards Raymond Attachment: attach_1134_1576_Switched_diamond-double_slip.box 347 Last edited on 26 Jul 2011 15:59 by Raymond Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot ...
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... about the chair failing before the naked MEK bond to the timber. I guess the only way to go would be to do a couple of small tests to see. I imagine that the grain (or lack thereof) on the plywood would also be a contibuting factor as to how well the chairs stick. My stuff I use is bright red though. Would that lose most of its colour once diluted? What ratio for dilution of it with MEK should be done? All very science experiment like. Definitely a job for outside too from memory last time I used the stuff it gave off a real pong! I have emailed you the box file Martin so if you can create A2 size pdf file that would be excellent as I have access to an internal printing firm where I work (gotta love an oil company hey!). I notice all of the chair designations along the side of the trackplan so that should put things right then. Thanks all, Paul. posted: 7 Apr 2009 10:27 from: Andy G Paul, ...
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... feet long). It seemed to me a better idea would be to have the platforms at least partially hidden under a train shed on a curve which would mean I wouldn't need to model their entire length. This was an idea I first saw on Chris Pendleton's layout "Kirkwhelpington" at Model Rail 78 in Glasgow. (That layout was the inspiration that got me into finescale (P4) modelling in the first place). The hidden parts on the curve would be the tail end of the fiddle yard and the space outside the train shed put to use on track that would be used to "watch the trains go by". The result is this partially finished modification of Lausanne station. It has everything I want, lots of track, carriage sidings and a locomotive depot. I got the track plan from Google Earth although they seem to have reduced the resolution to a useless level recently. I'm glad I took screen dumps of the station layout before the picture quality dropped. Alan McMillan Attachment: attach_534_774_Lausanne.box 356 Last edited on 28 Mar 2009 ...
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... Insert a turnout and put the peg on position 3. Put it onto the notch and then turn it into a half-diamond. You can then play around by adjusting the crossing Vee and the common K-crossing until the diamond route matches you other template. Then make the second half of the diamond and adjust this in the same way. I have purposely not stated all the commands you need to press as the process is more important. And just to show off, I have managed to create a semi-outside slip where both turnout roads are diverging away from the slip route, as this first attachment shows: I know it isn't quite right yet, but it does give you an idea of the possibilities. Attachment: attach_1148_1595_semi-outside_single_slip_on_curves.png 326 Last edited on 22 Aug 2011 21:29 by Simon Dunkley posted: 22 Aug 2011 21:25 from: Simon Dunkley Here is some more output, from Sketchup into pdf- the basic track centre lines with a few rectangles added. Attachment: attach_1149_1595_sketchboard_2011 _08_14_1151_04.pdf 327 Last edited on 22 ...
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