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... topic: 849 printed bisect of frog angle posted: 29 May 2009 20:03 from: jeckardt I am finally to the point of actually using a Templot template to build my first two custom turnouts. As I am sitting here filing the v-rail angles and trying to get the rails to fit together properly, I realize that it would be very helpful to have a "construction line" bisecting the the frog, extending maybe 2-3 centimeters on either side of the v-rail. Sure, I can (and did) hand draw this onto each of the printed templates, but it would be nice to have an option to have Templot do that for me accurately. Joe posted: 29 May 2009 21:00 from: Nigel Brown Joe There are various approaches to producing the V. I think what you're doing is filing both rails at half the angle so that placed side by side they produce the required V? If so there are alternative, rather easier and possibly more accurate methods. E.g. File one rail ...
... is that there should be a minimum 2" flangeway clearance all along an open switch rail to ensure that wheel backs cannot make contact with it (which can damage stretcher bars and detectors). For 2.75" rail width this means a minimum offset of 4.75" at the rail end. However, this is still not sufficient flangeway for 00, EM, 0-MF, etc. If modellers using those gauges wish to use loose heels they will need to move the actual heel position further along the closure rail. A custom switch can be derived from the straight switches showing the rail joint in a different position, or the template can simply be marked up as required during construction. If the reason for using straight switches is simply to save space in the track plan design, it is easier to adopt the straight switch geometry for the turnout, but actually to build them as flexible switches in the usual way. The heel joint can be represented with dummy fishplates attached to the flexing rail. Templot also includes a range of non-prototypical short ...
... and just try it with plastic chaired track.... When converting to a slip is it possible to make Templot do the alteration automatically? posted: 11 Apr 2012 10:57 from: Martin Wynne Borg-Rail wrote: Templot leaves the break where it would be on a Diamond Crossing. On a Slip it needs to be one timber nearer the common crossing. Hi Stephen, It's not Templot leaving it there, it's the user. To move the rail joint -- real> V-crossing options> customize V-crossing> wing rail front... menu item. The whole idea in Templot is that you set up your templates to match the prototype, which in this case varies a lot for slip designs. On the GWR there is no rail joint there -- the wing rail and switch stock rail are a single piece of rail. That works for 3-rail, live steam, clockwork and battery models only. For 2-rail models you must have an isolating gap for the V-crossing. ...
... HO track. How can I obtain these 4mm.Many thanks. Attachment: attach_1443_1956_cestas_aiguillage s_2012_05_05_1759_57.box 130 posted: 8 May 2012 23:35 from: Martin Wynne Gustavius wrote: When I print my turnout template the gap between sleepers is of 5 mm instead of 4mm in a SHINOHARA HO track. How can I obtain these 4mm. Many thanks. Hi Gustavius, Welcome to Templot Club. Creating templates to match existing commercial trackwork can be hard work. Templot is based on prototype pointwork, and most commercial pointwork is not. You can customize the templates to match your existing timber spacings, see: http://templot.com/companion/index.html?timber_spacings_overview.htm Note that timber spacings are measured centre-to-centre, not the gaps between them. p.s. in UK track, the bearers under turnouts are called "crossing timbers" or simply "timbers". The bearers under plain track are called "sleepers". Timbers are usually wider and deeper (12in x 6in) than sleepers (10in x 5in). I have edited this topic title to ...
... switchblade toe without joggling the stock rail? danny_blade_table.gif Hi Danny, I'm sorry to say these "thick-tip" switches are not (yet) supported in Templot. They are the usual arrangement for USA-style AREA switches (where the blade tip thickness is normally 1/8 ", corresponding to your 3mm). They are on my "to do" list, but as they are not used in the UK they have not had priority. Sorry. For a model construction template, you can simply create a custom switch with a "virtual toe" at the vertex, and extend the switch rail lengths by the vertex distance. Then during construction ignore the bit of blade between the vertex and the actual blade tips. Some calculations will be needed to get the timbers correctly located. For your 1:1 drawings, you can represent them using partial templates. Proceed as above, then split out the "crossing rails" onto a separate template (do> omit rails and joint marks menu item). Then blank it up to ...
... topic: 821 Rail length in front of switch posted: 19 May 2009 08:51 from: DANNY POSTHUMUS i want to set the distance from the begining of the to the tip of the switch regards danny posted: 19 May 2009 09:18 from: Martin Wynne DANNY POSTHUMUS wrote: I want to set the distance from the beginning of the turnout to the tip of the switch. Hi Danny, The switch front length is part of the custom switch settings. See: message 4518 There is a video available showing these settings being created for a North Eastern Railway (UK) switch of the pre-grouping (pre-1923) period. See this message: topic_299&forum_id=1 &jump_to=1779#p1779 If you drag the slider forward to 2 minutes 35 seconds into the video (elapsed time shows bottom-right) you will see the switch front spacings being entered. But before watching the video read the notes about it in the above message. regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless ...
... least some people are reading the document, it kind of makes it worth while. Martin Wynne wrote: However I'm a bit puzzled why you have called it an "alternative" method when it follows the usual method? I called it an Alternative Method because basically I did not use the same instructions as used in the video (TCP, MCP etc), nor did I use the built in slip switches as you pointed out in your comment. I simple developed this as a way of being able to use my own custom switches (but all built in switches can also be used by the method as well), and decided to write it out and publish in the hope it may help other members who seem to be struggling on how to make a slip template. Needless to say, that when I first started to make slip templates, I used the method as in the video, and have done so many times in the past, but on occasions, I can across an odd one that needed 'tweaking' so began to look and ...
408. HOm Track
... , Welcome to Templot Club. The reason there are no narrow-gauge pre-sets available in Templot is that there are just too many of them to list, and it's a minefield trying to establish the actual track standards used, especially for the European ones. For 3.5mm/ft scale on 12mm gauge I suggest using a 1.0mm flangeway in the absence of any definitive information. Start with standard H0 gauge. Then on the gauge/scale dialog (gauge> other gauges... menu item) click the set custom:> a button at the top left. Change the gauge and flangeway settings as required. Then at real> timbering> other length... menu item, enter a suitable length for the sleepers. I imagine 2 metres or 6ft-6in would be about right -- enter 78 inches. When you have the template looking about right, click the main> store as library template menu item so that you can use the settings in your track planning at any time later. regards, Martin. posted: ...
... until I can find a way to reproduce it at will. Can you remember exactly what you had just done prior to this happening? As you probably know, the sketchboard engine was written by Nils Haeck. It is written in a very different style of coding from my own, and I do find it difficult to follow in places. Unfortunately shortly after I purchased it and started work on it for Templot, Nils suffered a serious brain injury in an accident. This meant that he was in no position to support his customers, and is still not fully recovered. So where problems have arisen it was necessary to make my own modifications without any help or advice from Nils. I did wonder whether to abandon it and create something much more basic of my own, but having spent a good sum of money on it I was reluctant to write it off. Which is a round about way of saying that I'm aware the sketchboard function may not be as robust as other parts of Templot, and may need further work. I did test it ...
... available. I will add an "Apply" button to the plain track dialog in the next update. If I was being really lazy, I'd ask for a plain track option, where I could enter the rail length in mm, and say that I'd like n number of sleepers evenly distributed along the length, with say extra support at the joint. Again, not useful for prototype track, but "nice" for fiddle yard, hidden track. I'm not too sure about that one. Have you looked at setting custom CWR instead? See: topic 928- message 5381 That topic includes some posts from you. regards, Martin. posted: 28 Jun 2013 11:51 from: richard_t Thanks for that. I'd long forgotten about that thread! Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> I wish it would...> Move ruler mouse action, and apply in plain track rail lengths about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- ...
... I need to do. Attachment: attach_539_791_Paul's_layout_with _no_slip_3.box 242 posted: 20 Apr 2009 13:24 from: Martin Wynne Paul Hamilton wrote: I can't work out exactly what you did to turn a box file into this format. Hi Paul, I used my development version of Templot. PDF output will be available in a future version of Templot- see: topic 753 At present in 091c you would need to "print" to a virtual printer PDF generator such as pdf995 or Win2PDF. That works fine, but creating large custom paper sizes can be a bit tricky. Your pdf file attached below. It's 500mm wide by 3200mm long. It should open in Adobe Reader or Foxit Reader. Make sure to select "No Scaling" when printing it. It takes me only a minute to do, so feel free to post any updated files for the same treatment. regards, Martin. Attachment: attach_540_791_paul_hamilton.pdf 330 posted: 21 Apr 2009 01:32 from: Paul Hamilton Thanks for that Martin, my pdf writer only went to A3 so thanks ...
412. Turnout radius
... . If you click the? help F2 flag below the entry field when entering a dimension, Templot usually explains this. The resultant data in the information panel is in millimetres on the model. I guess you are modelling at 15mm/ft? 1150 inches prototype= 95.83 ft. 95.83 ft x 15mm/ft= 1437.5 mm. The general convention in Templot is that prototype data is in inches, and model data is in mm, corresponding to the way the usual UK modelling scales are defined. If you select your custom switch in the switch dialog panel and then click the show switch info button, Templot will show model and prototype dimensions alongside. regards, Martin. posted: 6 Apr 2009 20:17 from: jeckardt Okay, I'm seriously embarrassed... hadn't even considered that the templot parameters were being quoted in mm. (The magnitude of the templot radius was somewhat close to the requested fs radii so I jumped to the erroneous conclusion that the units were the same and the value got modified somehow. This was compounded by ...
... topic: 2033 Admin: Hotmail email addresses posted: 27 Jul 2012 12:46 from: Martin Wynne A member of Templot Club using a Hotmail email address has reported to Hotmail an email from Templot Club as spam. On the say-so of one user, Hotmail has now blocked all emails from Templot Club to other members also using Hotmail, and not only that blocked all emails from the same shared hosting server. That's several dozen of Jim's other customers who have no connection with Templot Club. Jim will now have to jump through several hoops to get Hotmail to unblock his server. I know that no-one in their right mind uses Hotmail, but a few do, and I may have to ban Hotmail addresses from Templot Club. Some other free email providers are equally keen to block servers for the flimsiest reason. If you think an email from Templot Club is spam, please notify me( webmaster@templot.com) and not your provider. Otherwise it can cause untold grief for others. regards, Martin. posted: 27 ...
414. Asymmetrical Y point
... branch off, with a 60 inch radius. Hi Kim, Is this quick dabble something like what you are looking for? 2_261627_450000000.png What you do is set the 54" main road curving (negative for a Y-effect -- contraflexure), and set a curviform type of V-crossing. Then adjust the V-crossing angle (F9 mouse action) until you hit the desired resultant turnout radius (60" is 1524mm as shown). This is using a 1:24 switch and ideally you need a custom switch here a bit shorter, say 1:18 or 1:20. Probably you also want equalized timbering. regards, Martin. posted: 26 Sep 2012 22:39 from: kimstation Hi Martin, This looks just what I was looking for. Thank you. Kim Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Templot talk> Asymmetrical Y point about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot ...
... topic: 2100 Start-up .box and .bgs files posted: 3 Nov 2012 13:58 from: Martin Wynne In the next update I have added an option to have a start-up .box data file. If you save a .box file called start.box in your \BOX-FILES\ folder, and don't choose to reload your previous session, the start.box file will be loaded automatically. This can contain whatever you want -- custom templates, library templates, a default track plan of some sort, default settings for the control template, gauge and scale, etc. It's an ordinary .box file, so you can reload it or modify it at any time. If you don't want to use this feature it's very simple -- don't save a file called start.box. The same applies to background shapes if you save a file called start.bgs in your \SHAPE-FILES\ folder. In this case however, it loads every time on start-up as there is no "reload previous" function for .bgs files. This option is ...
... You are printing two overlaid templates. The original needs to be deleted, or omitted from the output. To help you further we need to know which version of Templot you are using, and whether you are clicking the print the control template menu item or print background templates menu item? Perhaps you could post a screenshot or attach your .box file. Note that the 12ft straight switch is a generic pre-grouping design. If you have detailed SE&CR drawings you should be able to create an exact match as a custom switch. regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Baffled beginners> Printing after shoving timbers about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors. indexing link for search engines back to top of page Please read this important note about copyright: Unless stated otherwise, all the files submitted to this web ...
... length. Spacings to sleeper centres from rail end: 12" to first sleeper 1 space at 27.3/4" 21 spaces at 30.1/2" 1 space at 27.3/4" 12" to rail end. Total= 720"= 60ft. End sleepers 12" wide. All others 10" wide. All 9ft long. Heavier chairs than standard on the wider end sleepers. If you need more LNWR data, the LNWR Society should be able to help. Stuart Hince has written a tutorial on setting up custom rail lengths and sleeper spacings in Templot. It's specifically for the GWR, so just change the numbers accordingly for the LNWR data: http://templot.com/martweb/pdf_files/gwr_track_panels.pdf regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Templot talk> LNWR plain track in Templot about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members ...
418. 1st P4 Layout
... a novice mistake in calling an error when there isn't one Thank you for any help that is offered Andrew Attachment: attach_1570_2168_GWR_BLT_March_193 4.box 228 posted: 27 Feb 2013 12:21 from: Martin Wynne Hi Andrew, Welcome to Templot Club. The heel offset is measured from gauge-face to gauge-face, it's not the gap between the rails. You seem to have it correct at 1.5mm. I notice that you have changed the pre-set 10ft GWR switch from a timbered switch front to sleepered switch front as a custom switch. It's great to see the full range of Templot adjustments being used. regards, Martin. posted: 27 Feb 2013 13:02 from: Nigel Brown Hi Andrew Couple of thoughts. Locomotives could go a long time before repaints, sometimes extremely so, so it's OK to have a layout set later than 1934 but still with the full Great Western on the sides. Jim Russell's Vol. 2 of GWR locos shows a picture of 8757 at Paddington in 1955 still with Great Western, just visible under the grime ...
419. Shove timbers
... then crabbing J2 to the same position. Generally you should always use along for large movements (after adding a bonus timber for example). If you use crab for large movements, notice that the timber parts company from its number label. Or is there some way of getting a guide line for the ends of the timbers? Move another timber along to act as a marker, and then restore it afterwards. Alternatively, you can add a guide line along the template by temporarily moving the track centre-line to a custom offset. For the timber ends, the offset would be [minus] half the sleeper length. I will look at adding that as a pre-set option: geometry> centre-line options (expert)> menu items. Why is there no button equivalent of the mouse action throw? No room for the button. That dialog is already packed as tight as I can get it. Instead, use lengthen at one end and shorten at the other alternately. Most of the above is explained in the notes ...
... try Amazon just in case) therein will surely be the answer. Regards, Howard posted: posted: 5 Feb 2009 19:32 from: R A Watson I have just had a quick look at the FASTLINE Videos Switch and Crossing Video Disc 2, and it has, in the maintenance of S& C section a BR training film which gives a "tutorial" on the construction and operation of F P L bars and associated equipment which will help your research. Whilst I must expres the usual "only an appreciative customer" comment I feel this series is a must have item for any user of this forum. Wally 5 Feb 2009 19:32 from: rodney_hills JFS wrote: (snipped) I don't know about Swanage- but if you can get hold of/ sight of the relevent copy of George Pryor's book of box diagrams, (now out of print, but try Amazon just in case) therein will surely be the answer. Regards, Howard Hello, "S.B. Diagrams of the Great Western& Southern Railways by G.A ...
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