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topic: 1021When to upgrade?
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posted: 21 Jan 2010 21:18

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Robert Preston
 
Wirral - United Kingdom

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I've spent many months reading about Templot and track making and at last have bought the program. So I'm new to this game, so please bear with me. What a steep learning curve and what a program! I have many questions of course, but of immediate concern to me are:

1.  I've installed version 0.74.b because that was the advice on installation. At what point should I upgrade to a later version? And how far? To a .8 version or .9? I ask this because I notice that some of the videos have commands not present in .74b.

2. This is nothing to do with Templot itself, but a more general question about 00 trackwork. I am attracted to 00-SF because the reduced flange ways look much better, and I'm inclined to believe running will be better than 00-?? (so long as B to Bs are monitored). But what is the cost in usable radii? Given that I have a penchant for 8- and 10-coupled heavy freight locos, what would be a sensible minimum – 36", 30", or something much more P4-like? Should I stick to 00-BF where presumably I could go down to 30" comfortably.

3. What method of track construction to employ? I'm not asking what is best (ply and rivet, pcb, or ply and chair. Any others....?) but essentially which is quickest? I suspect ply and rivet is slower than the others, and clearly chair and ply looks better than pcb, but is there a time and financial penalty?

4. Just a quicky about Templot: I think I understand "copy to current", but what is the difference in use between "wipe to current" and "delete to current". Presumably delete to current deletes the template from the storage box, and you won't have a copy there of what the template was like before you modified it. But what does "wipe" do?

Thanks in anticipation,

Robert Preston

 

posted: 22 Jan 2010 19:10

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Paul Boyd
 
Loughborough - United Kingdom

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Hi Robert

1. I've installed version 0.74.b because that was the advice on installation. At what point should I upgrade to a later version? And how far? To a .8 version or .9? I ask this because I notice that some of the videos have commands not present in .74b.
My recommendation (Martin's may differ!) is to stick with 0.74b until you're more confident.  The reason for this is that many of the tutorials I think are written with that version in mind, although you'll miss out on some features.  As ever, I would say that you need to work your way through all the tutorials until you're happy.  At some point, Martin's twisted logic :D:D will click and you'll suddenly wonder why you were ever daunted.  At that stage, you might consider upgrading.  The danger of upgrading too soon is that you'll struggle with the tutorials.

I can't help with OO standards, but my preference for track building is ply timbers with plastic chairs.  Ply and rivet is time-consuming but produces bomb-proof track.  You weren't going to bomb it though, were you?  I suspect plastic chairs/ply timbers is also cheaper, because with ply/rivet you still need to add cosmetic chairs which are the same ones you'd otherwise be gluing straight on.
4. Just a quicky about Templot: I think I understand "copy to current", but what is the difference in use between "wipe to current" and "delete to current". Presumably delete to current deletes the template from the storage box, and you won't have a copy there of what the template was like before you modified it. But what does "wipe" do?
Delete to current removes the template from the background and storage box, and copies it to the current, as you said.  Wipe to current deletes it from the background, but leaves it in the storage box - useful if you think you might need it back later on.  As the name suggests, it also copies it to current.  Wipe on its own deletes it from the background, leaves it in the storage box and doesn't affect the current.

Hope this helps!

Paul




Last edited on 22 Jan 2010 19:12 by Paul Boyd
posted: 23 Jan 2010 00:05

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Robert Preston
 
Wirral - United Kingdom

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Hi Paul,

Your comments about upgrading chime with mine, and I am inclined to agreee with you about sticking with version .74b for a while. Already I have found a quite different way of making a curved cross over that gives better and quicker results than the first mthod I used.

I'm still confused about wiping, deleting and copying. Your comment about wiping as opposed to deleting makes sense, but where does that leave "copy to current"?

Robert

posted: 23 Jan 2010 00:42

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Robert Preston wrote:
I'm still confused about wiping, deleting and copying. Your comment about wiping as opposed to deleting makes sense, but where does that leave "copy to current"?
Hi Robert,

See: http://www.templot.com/martweb/gs_bgpop.htm

From which:
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  • copy to current
  • wipe to current
  • delete to current
    These three options all make the current template an exact copy of this background template.

    For copy to current, the background template is unchanged, and the new current template will be drawn directly over the top of it. The background template will not therefore be visible until the current template is moved away. (Toggling the pad > hide current template menu item on and off will reveal the background template unchanged.) Use this option when you don't want to disturb the background template, but wish to use a copy of it, or a template derived from it, elsewhere.

    For wipe to current, this background template is wiped from the pad, and is no longer visible. It remains in your storage box as an unused template and can if needed be re-instated as a background template by clicking the copy to background button on the storage box window. Use this option when you want to try making some changes to this template, without losing the option to revert to the previous design.

    red_pointer.gifred_pointer.gifRemember to put the modified current template on the background in its place (control > store & background menu item) when you have finished making changes. The template which you are adjusting is the current template, not the one in the box.

    For delete to current, this background template is deleted from your storage box. Use this option when you are sure that you do not want this template in its present form. You can undo the delete by selecting the edit > undo delete menu item on the storage box, but only if you have made no subsequent deletions from the box.
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Note that the current template is now called "the control template" in version 091c, and the menu wording has been changed accordingly.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 23 Jan 2010 10:02

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Robert Preston
 
Wirral - United Kingdom

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Thanks Martin. Gottit now. And a useful bye-product is that I now better understand how to use the tutorials.

 

Robert



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