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posted: 3 May 2010 09:20

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roythebus
 
Aldington Frith, Ashford, Kent - United Kingdom

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Hi all, having got a layout up and running from a Frank dyer design, I then discovered Templot and the C&L track system. The layout was built using Peco and Tillg track which I thought would work. Well, it does, but i really want to replace the track with something that looks better.

I know both makes of proprietary track aren't anything like scale measurements, but is there an easy way of making Templot templates that will closely match the Peco OO gauge series? Relaying the track won't be too much hassle, it's the wiring that took the time, involving a whole string of single and double slips in true Frank Dyer fashion, and not using digital control. But then I like relays!

posted: 3 May 2010 10:45

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Hi Roy,

There are a couple of templates available for downloading which exactly match Peco 00/H0 turnouts.

Download from: topic 294

peco_00h0.pngpeco_00h0.png


But it's not too clear what you are asking? If you are replacing the Peco track you don't necessarily need an exact match. For example a crossover made from Peco Large Radius turnouts could probably be replaced with an ordinary A-7 crossover, and look much better as a result:

00sf_a7_v_peco1.png00sf_a7_v_peco1.png


If you want a closer match to the original, a turnout with a GWR 10ft curved switch and a 1:6 curviform crossing gets close:

00sf_10ft_6_v_peco1.png00sf_10ft_6_v_peco1.png


See also the option of using 00-SF standards if you are handbuilding in 00 gauge:

http://00-sf.org.uk

regards,

Martin.

posted: 3 May 2010 13:45

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roythebus
 
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Thanks Martin, I was trying to say I need something that will braodly replace the Peco points without having to alter basebaord joints, platforms and structures etc! I was trying to work out the crossing angle of the Peco stuff.Your comment has answered that for me, thanks.

Hopefully the wiring can be re-used as I always use droppers through the board.

posted: 3 May 2010 14:06

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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roythebus wrote:
Thanks Martin, I was trying to say I need something that will broadly replace the Peco points without having to alter baseboard joints, platforms and structures etc! I was trying to work out the crossing angle of the Peco stuff.
Hi Roy,

The exit angle of all* Peco 00/H0 pointwork is 12 degrees (1:4.7 RAM).

But this is the actual crossing angle only for the small radius turnouts and the long diamond-crossing/slips.

For the longer turnouts, the actual crossing angle is flatter, and of curviform type to achieve the 12-degree exit. That's why the crossovers are so unsatisfactory with a severe reverse curve at the mid-point. Curviform crossings aren't normally used in a crossover.

*except the short Y-turnout and short diamond-crossing, which are 24 degrees (1:2.25 RAM).

regards,

Martin.

posted: 3 May 2010 18:00

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Peter Ayre
 
 

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Hi Roy,

You can try scanning a point or using the Peco templates and making a background shape.
Just overlay on top of the background shape.

I think when I did the medium point I had to shove a lot of timbers and for some reason a mint from current (small radius) produced the wrong sleeper spacing.

Regards,
Peter

posted: 7 May 2010 20:11

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roythebus
 
Aldington Frith, Ashford, Kent - United Kingdom

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Thanks for the help. The problems with the Peco crossovers is indeed the reverse curve in the middle. I'm currently managing to re-plan things using templot, but ut takes quite a while getting used to it.

 

thanks for the help.

posted: 27 Mar 2014 15:10

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johncbs
 
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Hi, not sure whether to start a new topic given timelapse but here goes anyway - after years of Templot procrastination I too am converting from Peco Code 100 to (any)Code 75 track on my test-track (8foot+ nominal diameter in a 10.5foot room) and have generated a range of cross-overs to try to cram in what I want whilst retaining a minimum 4foot nom radius throughout and 3foot min thro the actual cross-over(s). I ended up implementing a Curviform B6 semicurved switch cross-over as giving me minimum radial space consumption; got the warnings, overrode them, and the resulting alignment to my untutored eye looks ok. I read the concerns about curviform crossover reverse curves but still not sure what I am actually missing - is there a link where the subject is addressed as I would like to understand the issue (even if I then accept it!!)?



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