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posted: 5 Aug 2010 04:18 from: kenbec
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Martin, I seem to have found a way to defeat all of your security measures, somehow I have removed the entire Templot directory from my "C" drive. I can't really believe I did this but I am the only one allowed to use this computer so unless there is a virus out there aimed at you I can think of no other explanation.  The only thing is that I have been in and out of hospital again recently and maybe I was suffering from some kind of mental abberation.  Anyway everything is gone with the exception of the actual rubbings stored in an area I back up. What I want to know is if I store your Backups, BOX-FILES, DXF-FILES and SHAPE-FILES folders in an area I back up will this allow me to reinstall Templot and then replace them to restore it to the state I had reached or are there other aspects I must provide for? Regards, Ken I just thought, maybe Templot was caught up in one of my Temp clearance sessions, unlikely I know but the actual deletion defies explanation anyway. |
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posted: 5 Aug 2010 10:57 from: Martin Wynne
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Kenneth Beckett wrote: I seem to have found a way to defeat all of your security measures, somehow I have removed the entire Templot directory from my "C" drive.Hi Ken, I don't have any security measures. I wouldn't try to control what you can do with your own computer. It seems unlikely that you would delete an entire folder from the root of the C: drive, but if so it will be in the Recycle Bin and can be restored. Templot doesn't actually need to be installed in the usual sense. It is a single executable file (TemplotZero.exe) which you can put anywhere on your computer. All you have to do is run/open it. However, it must be in a folder where it has write permissions, otherwise it won't be able to save its data. That means putting it in a folder created by you, not one owned by Windows. If you have really lost Templot, I suggest downloading it again. When the delivery program asks where to put it, I suggest changing it to C:/TEMPLOT_DO_NOT_DELETE_THIS_FOLDER/ . Remember also to add that folder to your backup set. If you have your Templot data files ("rubbings"?) backed up somewhere else, copy them back into the new BOX-FILES, SHAPE-FILES, sub-folders. Yes, you can move those sub-folders anywhere you like, although you will then need to navigate to them when you want them. Keeping Templot's data in a different place from Templot doesn't make any sense to me. It's much better to add the entire TEMPLOT folder to your backup set. regards, Martin. |
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posted: 5 Aug 2010 12:30 from: kenbec
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Hello there Martin, Thanks for your reply. I don't have any security measures. I wouldn't try to control what you can do with your own computer.Of course you have security measures, internal to Templot, which allow for some recovery from user mistakes. Anyway this was only intended to be a light hearted introduction to my message. It seems unlikely that you would delete an entire folder from the root of the C: drive, but if so it will be in the Recycle Bin and can be restored.I agree and the Recycle Bin, of course, was the first place I looked. The fact that Templot was not in it deepens the mystery. Yes, you can move those sub-folders anywhere you like, although you will then need to navigate to them when you want them. Keeping Templot's data in a different place from Templot doesn't make any sense to me. It's much better to add the entire TEMPLOT folder to your backup set.This answers my question, I never intended having the sub-folders seperated from Templot only copies of them on my D (work) drive which is backed up regularly. It will not be an onerous task to simply copy them to my D drive whenever I have made any significant changes. I never back up my C drive as it only contains software which can be recovered easily if necessary. As soon as I established that Templot was gone I re-installed 74 and 91 within minutes, the data unfortunately is gone forever or at least until I can re-create it. So regardless of what happens in future I will have my Templot data backed up in three locations, my back up being on two external hard drives. Thanks for your advice. Regards, Ken |
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posted: 5 Aug 2010 12:34 from: Martin Wynne
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Kenneth Beckett wrote:It will not be an onerous task to simply copy them to my D drive whenever I have made any significant changes.Hi Ken, Isn't it much easier simply to add C:/TEMPLOT/ to your backup set? Then you won't have to remember to copy anything. regards, Martin. |
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posted: 5 Aug 2010 12:49 from: Martin Wynne
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p.s. Alternatively of course, you can simply install Templot at D:/TEMPLOT/ and the whole thing will be on your D drive anyway. Martin. |
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posted: 5 Aug 2010 13:43 from: kenbec
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Hello again Martin,Isn't it much easier simply to add C:/TEMPLOT/ to your backup set? Then you won't have to remember to copy anything. p.s. Alternatively of course, you can simply install Templot at D:/TEMPLOT/ and the whole thing will be on your D drive anyway.Both are of course excellent suggestions with the second being the easiest to implement. However they infringe three of my self imposed rules. All programs without exception go on my C drive, never back up programs and always back up my D drive. I used to put executable programs such as Templot on my work drive but in the end decided that there would be less confusion if I separated the functionality of the drives and strictly enforced the first rule I mentioned. I don't back up programs because they are so easily recovered and not worth the extra work to back them up, I do not use a proprietary program to do my back ups. I back up my entire D drive so nothing is ever missed. I have scripted my own back up so that it does what I want it to when I want it to. All back ups take place overnight along with all my other housekeeping processes. I find that by sticking to these simple procedures it is less likely that errors will occur. Templot because of its structure really did tempt me to install it on D but I was strong and stuck to my rule.  The likelihood of my forgetting is very low as shutting down Templot already involves a fairly structured set of procedures and copying the sub-folders will become second nature to me. And finally doing it my way gives me three sets of back up not two, somewhat overdone I know but at the moment I am contemplating a rather long recovery process to re-create the missing templates and feel the need. Thanks again for your suggestions. Regards, Ken |
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