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posted: 21 Oct 2010 23:23 from: Mike Huxley click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
Hi all, I'm new to using the system and can't work out how to do a few things, so Please give me a few pointers. First one .... How do you create a simple loop in a curved track without crossing points? Second one .... How do you make a simple siding off the running line without using "return curve", as this doesn't seem to work in extending a sidding at a different angle to the main line. Maybe it's my age and not understanding all of the tuturials. However, help for the simple things is needed ... Please. Cheers, Mike |
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posted: 22 Oct 2010 08:47 from: Martin Wynne
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Mike Huxley wrote:How do you make a simple siding off the running line without using "return curve", as this doesn't seem to work in extending a siding at a different angle to the main line.Hi Mike, Which version of Templot are you using? Look at the help > about Templot menu item. To make a siding in version 074b, 1. Click tools > make return curve menu item. Then change the newly created track to whatever you want, using F4 mouse action to extend it or F6 mouse action to curve it. or 2. Use the peg and notch functions to attach a new length of plain track. That's covered in the "Track Plan" tutorial on screens 37 to 43 at: http://www.templot.com/martweb/tut5e.htm ------------------- In version 091c you can do those things, but in addition you can 3. Click tools > make branch track menu item, which creates a siding directly. or 4. Store the turnout template on the background and then use F7 snapping -- create a new length of plain track, then using F7 mouse action move one end of it close to the turnout exit. It will snap into alignment as a siding. You can then adjust it as before. or 5. Store the turnout template on the background and then create a new length of plain track. Click on the turnout, and then click the peg/align tools > snap the control template onto background template > at CTRL-6 TVJP item on its pop-up menu. ----------------- 1 or 3 are the simplest methods since they require only a single click. Note however that 1 isn't available if the turnout is in a transition curve template. 3 works for any template, including half-diamonds. You can see 3 being used at elapsed time 4mins 2secs in this video: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html For information about upgrading to version 091c (free), see: message 1849 Make sure you click all the links there to read all the notes about the cumulative changes from 074b. I will write about loops separately soon. regards, Martin. |
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posted: 22 Oct 2010 19:44 from: Mike Huxley click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
Martin, Thanks for the pointers they sure helped. I'm using 074b at the moment, as I'm sure I read that it was better to get used to this version first before upgrading to the 091c version. I've got a lot to get used to yet, but I do like the programme and will be experimenting with different aspects of it till I'm confident with it's full uses. I'll look forward to seeing your help update on Loops at a later date. Thanks again for your help. Mike |
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posted: 26 Oct 2010 08:52 from: Martin Wynne
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Mike Huxley wrote: I'm using 074b at the moment, as I'm sure I read that it was better to get used to this version first before upgrading to the 091c version.Hi Mike, Yes and no. If you are the sort of person who likes to read the docs and work through the tutorials on the Templot Companion web pages, it is better to start with 074b. Most of the screenshots shown there are from 074b -- following them in 091c would be confusing because many of the menu items have been moved around. If you are someone who wouldn't read a user manual if it hit you on the nose already open at the correct page,  it is better to upgrade to 091c straight away. This version contains a great many extra features and is much easier to navigate on the pad using mouse-wheel zooming and drag-panning.I have always tended to assume that most new users would fall into the first group, which is why the 9-year-old version 074b is still supplied as the release version. But I'm more and more convinced that only a minority of users do in fact read the docs. A good few don't even read the order confirmation letter which I send them.  Very soon I must sort out this mess, 9 years is far too long between release versions. At present however I am fully stretched working on the next pug version, which itself is approaching 3 years since 091c was released. I will answer your question about loops shortly. regards, Martin. |
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posted: 28 Oct 2010 23:15 from: Bill Fay click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
Martin Wynne wrote:But I'm more and more convinced that only a minority of users do in fact read the docs. A good few don't even read the order confirmation letter which I send them.Some do Martin. When I first started I printed off the Templot Companion and a few Tutorials. Despite the cost of ink and paper I found it invaluable in helping me get started and I still frequently refer to the Companion. Also if I print off a help page I now insert into the Companion - very useful. I am sure I am not alone in feeling a need to digest written information whilst learning. Actually I found the Companion very readable compared with the usual computer programme manuals! Bill |
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posted: 29 Oct 2010 14:16 from: Glen Suckling
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Bill Fay wrote: Some do Martin. Me too. Glen |
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posted: 29 Oct 2010 23:02 from: mike_raybould
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With regard to the documentation that's provided. I also printed the tutorials, I had to re-size the pictures, and the short cut keystrokes and other docs like Taking Shape. I found the tutorials easier to read on paper than having to click between different screens. The first tutorial I used was the P4 Track Plan. 1 I did it first step by step from the pages. 2 I did as much as could from memory and when stuck looked up the relevant page. I probably did this 4 or 5 times until I could do it without look ups. After all this I had good enough knowledge of the Peg and Notch system to be able to draw a decent plan for my shed. Thanks Martin. I've had Templot for a number of years and still enjoy using it. Incidentally I use TRAX to sort out the basic electrics for the Point and Signal logic. regards Mick |
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posted: 31 Oct 2010 05:07 from: Martin Wynne
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Hi Mike, I have now made a bit of video showing how to create a simple concentric/parallel running loop: running loop video Click the Play button bottom-left to start it. Sorry it's so scruffy and unfinished, I'm a bit too busy coding to make a tidier version (videos take hours and hours to do properly ).For a non-concentric loop, see this tutorial instead: http://www.templot.com/martweb/info_files/make_trans.htm regards, Martin. |
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posted: 31 Oct 2010 23:40 from: Mike Huxley click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
Hi Martin, Many thanks for your vidio, it explains all I needed to know and has helped me a lot. Since my first post on help I've been experimenting and learning more all the time. I think it pays to start small and expand as your comfort with the programme expands. All the best, Mike |
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