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topic: 1384How to do this?
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posted: 22 Feb 2011 23:59

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BruceNordstrand
 
Riverstone, NSW - Australia

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Hi peeps

Just looking for a tad of assistance. What I want to do is insert a turnout into the track on the right. Simple enough you say... well not this one :) I want to have the turnout straight road connecting to that new track at the bottom of the pic, thereby requiring the turnout road to be inserted into the current track flow. I want to do this as it will be a future mainline to further industries up my branch when I get more room to expand this section of the layout.

Can I do what I am asking? Any tricks up anyone's sleeves if I can't "officially" do it?

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Any help would be very appreciated.

Cheers
Bruce

posted: 23 Feb 2011 00:12

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Rob Manchester
 
Manchester - United Kingdom

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Bruce,

Maybe I am misreading your question but can you not put the Notch on the end of the track you have at the bottom right, make a new template with a peg on the desired join and 'Move peg onto notch'.

Or is it more than that you want ?

Rob


posted: 23 Feb 2011 00:29

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BruceNordstrand
 
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Rob Manchester wrote:
Bruce,

Maybe I am misreading your question but can you not put the Notch on the end of the track you have at the bottom right, make a new template with a peg on the desired join and 'Move peg onto notch'.

Or is it more than that you want ?

Rob

Hi Rob

To be honest I don't understand what you have said, I am not that confident with Templot yet. Here's another shot that tries to explain my post above:

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Where the black line starts I want that to be straight so I can "continue" the main road. The new track shown isn't necessarily going to be there, it's just for display purposes while I work out if I can actually do what I want....

Cheers
Bruce

posted: 23 Feb 2011 00:38

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Rob Manchester
 
Manchester - United Kingdom

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Bruce,

Yes, you do want slightly more than my explanation would have been able to provide. I am still very much at the learning stage too but don't worry, Martin or one of the users will soon have you sorted on this one.

Rob


posted: 23 Feb 2011 01:15

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BruceNordstrand
 
Riverstone, NSW - Australia

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Thanks again Rob. I am am no hurry as this is for future planning and am just seeing if I can do it the way I want...

Cheers
Bruce

posted: 23 Feb 2011 01:40

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Martin Wynne
 
West Of The Severn - United Kingdom

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Hi Bruce,

See this video for the "toy train" solution:

http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/subs_rad.exe

However, matters are made rather more complicated by the presence of the transition zone where you want to insert the turnout. To suggest more I need to see more of that track. What and where does it connect to, above your screenshot? The best solution is probably to place a turnout and make the connections, and then do "make transition" further north to link existing tracks. But you didn't show that bit, so I can't advise.

When you say you want the "straight" road to connect to the lower track, do you mean the main road of a curved turnout? Or is it essential that the main road is dead straight? Is the lower track in a fixed position, or can it move a mm or two if necessary?

regards,

Martin.
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posted: 23 Feb 2011 01:50

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BruceNordstrand
 
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Martin Wynne wrote:
Hi Bruce,

See this video for the "toy train" solution:

http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/subs_rad.exe

However, matters are made rather more complicated by the presence of the transition zone where you want to insert the turnout. To suggest more I need to see more of that track. What and where does it connect to, above your screenshot? The best solution is probably to place a turnout and make the connections, and then do "make transition" further north to link existing tracks. But you didn't show that bit, so I can't advise.

When you say you want the "straight" road to connect to the lower track, do you mean the main road of a curved turnout? Or is it essential that the main road is dead straight? Is the lower track in a fixed position, or can it move a mm or two if necessary?

regards,

Martin.
Hi Martin

Thanks for your reply. I haven't had a look at the substitution radius video yet but will do so.

Yes, I mean the main road versus the straight road. Her's a shot of the overall section that I am working with. I would prefer not to mess too much with the flow of the track, having a non toy train look is very important to me, however if that means I am own my own (total handlay without a template) then so be it, I was just hoping Templot could help with easements/transitions so I don't stuff things up by freehanding it :)

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Cheers
Bruce

posted: 23 Feb 2011 02:02

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Martin Wynne
 
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Thanks Bruce. I will make a bit of Jing video shortly suggesting a solution.

Martin.

posted: 23 Feb 2011 02:12

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BruceNordstrand
 
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Fantastic, thanks Martin. Sorry to drag you away from more important matters....

Cheers
Bruce

posted: 23 Feb 2011 03:23

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Martin Wynne
 
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Hi Bruce,

It's a bit late here to make a video now (3am), so here's a quick sketch:

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a. make a new S-curve transition between the existing curve at 1 and the new outer track at 2.

b. insert a turnout in it. This is a right-hand turnout because you wanted the main road to go to the new track at 2.

c. adjust the size of the turnout (F5) to suit your requirements (this is 1:9 as drawn there) and set do > turnout road > long.

d. roam it along (CTRL+F9) until the turnout road rails are just shy of the existing track at 3. Reset do > turnout road > normal.

e. make branch track at 3, F6 if necessary to get the rails very close but not overlapping, and then make transition to the existing turnout exit track. A bit of trial and error may be needed to keep the transition zone clear of the existing turnout. Adjust the boundaries as required to just link the two turnouts, and delete the original tracks.

If that's not clear, I'll do a bit of video tomorrow. Assuming the above is actually what you wanted, of course? :) The turnout is nearly all in the transition zone, but needs must if you are tight for space.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 23 Feb 2011 10:02

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BruceNordstrand
 
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Wonderful, thanks again Martin.

I'll go try this out and report back if I have difficulties.

Cheers
Bruce



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