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posted: 18 Mar 2011 21:42

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Brian Nicholls
 
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Hi Martin,

I am just in the middle of experimenting with a tutorial video on irregular diamonds.

A couple of questions:

What is the best format to do the videos?

The program I am using seems to like AVI is this acceptable for Templot Club?

Kindest regards,

Brian Nicholls.

posted: 18 Mar 2011 22:15

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Martin Wynne
 
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Brian Nicholls wrote:
I am just in the middle of experimenting with a tutorial video on irregular diamonds.

A couple of questions:

What is the best format to do the videos?

The program I am using seems to like AVI is this acceptable for Templot Club?
Hi Brian,

The best format is probably ordinary Flash (SWF files). These can be easily embedded using the red flash.gifflash.gif button. You can create SWF files with the free version of Jing.

But AVI files work equally well, embedded using the media.gifmedia.gif button. Annoyingly, they start playing immediately, which can be a bit alarming if they include sound. They then have to be stopped and restarted from the beginning when the viewer is ready.

The file needs to be uploaded somewhere first. You can add SWF files as an attachment on Templot Club, but limited to 5MB max, which is a fairly short video. Jing provide free hosting.

Here is an AVI video embedded using the media.gifmedia.gif button:
 




regards,

Martin.

posted: 19 Mar 2011 00:33

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Brian Nicholls
 
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Martin Wynne wrote:
The best format is probably ordinary Flash (SWF files). These can be easily embedded using the red flash.gifflash.gif button. You can create SWF files with the free version of Jing.

But AVI files work equally well, embedded using the media.gifmedia.gif button. Annoyingly, they start playing immediately, which can be a bit alarming if they include sound. They then have to be stopped and restarted from the beginning when the viewer is ready.
Hi Martin,

Thank you for the information, that’s just what I wanted to know. :thumb:

I have looked at my sample program and find, it can produce either AVI or SWF files, so I have the choice. :)

The limit of the file size might be a problem though, since the video of the irregular diamond is expected to be fairly long, even when edited, there’s a lot of Templot manipulating to do to produce the final template. :(

May have to make it into a set of small files like pages or chapters of a book, will have to think about this. :?

BTW, the sample video looks good and works well.

All the best,

Brian Nicholls.


posted: 19 Mar 2011 12:59

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Brian Nicholls
 
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Hi Martin,

Unfortunately, another question has arisen on this topic.

What screen area do you recommend is best for Templot tutorials ?

Having looked at the details of several video program that are available, it appears that there is a number of options of output screen sizes generated by these programs, as listed below.


        Widescreen 16:9
         640 x 360
         800 x 450
        1024 x 576
        1280 x 720

       Standard 4:3
        640 x 480
        800 x 600
       1240 x 768

      Newer Screen Areas
      102 x 30
      1588 x 766
      1920 x 1050
      1920 x 1080

My own feeling on the subject is to make things as large as possible for clarity, but this does give the problem of file sizes being larger and taking up a lot of space,

Perhaps I can now finally put this topic to bed.

All the best,

Brian Nicholls.

posted: 19 Mar 2011 13:52

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Martin Wynne
 
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Brian Nicholls wrote:
My own feeling on the subject is to make things as large as possible for clarity, but this does give the problem of file sizes being larger and taking up a lot of space
Hi Brian,

This is a common misunderstanding. Provided you use a suitable video codec -- e.g. TSCC -- the file size in MB depends on the amount of detail in the image, not the size of the image in pixels. Likewise with GIF and PNG format for static images. An image of a patch of single colour 10,000 x 6,000 pixels would occupy only a few bytes in a file.

The way to keep file sizes small is to remove everything from the screen which is not needed in the video. Closing the info and zoom dialogs, and working without timbering, will make a much smaller video file size -- provided you go nowhere near JPG and MPG formats, which should never be used for program screenshots and look awful when so used.

I keep saying this, but the vast majority of Templot screenshots posted on forums such as RMweb are still in JPG format and look pretty dreadful as a result. :(

8-bit indexed PNG (256-colour) is far and away the best option.

What screen area do you recommend is best for Templot tutorials ?
Some users are still using 1024 x 768 screens, so it needs to fit on that, and allow for the Windows task bar, browser top toolbars, side scrollbars, etc.

When I'm making the Templot videos, I normally resize the workpad to about 960 x 540, which seems to suit most users.

Do make sure you resize the Templot workpad window and record the video at 1:1 -- don't resize it in the video software afterwards. Move the workpad to bottom left of the screen so that you can capture the pop-up template menus. You will need to run through the action first and drag any dialog windows into the frame. Be warned -- getting everything just right and editing out any fumbles will take hours of fiddling about. :)

If you don't have a screen ruler, you can get a free one from:

 http://www.spadixbd.com/freetools/

regards,

Martin.

posted: 19 Mar 2011 14:15

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Brian Nicholls
 
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Hi Martin,

Many thanks for the most detailed explanation.


At least it now gives me some form of yard stick to work to.


Will have a go anyway, and see what materialises.


All the best,


Brian Nicholls.




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