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topic: 1523Odd Turnout
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posted: 30 May 2011 20:33

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leflep
 
Carlisle - United Kingdom

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I would appreciate comments on this:
 
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Peter

posted: 30 May 2011 20:46

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Paul Boyd
 
Loughborough - United Kingdom

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Hi Peter

If you're referring to the turnout in the right foreground, I guess you're querying the catch points in the lead?  These are single tongue catch points and their use in this way was quite common.

I just happened to have built a couple into a turnout earlier today...

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(Not sure what happened to the first attempt at this post - the email version looks odd!)
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posted: 30 May 2011 21:01

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leflep
 
Carlisle - United Kingdom

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Thanks Paul. I also thought that the left hand side of the frog didn't have a check rail but looking now I can see that it does.

What a coincidence that you were modelling one.

Cheers,

Peter

posted: 30 May 2011 21:29

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JFS
 
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Paul Boyd wrote:
I just happened to have built a couple into a turnout earlier today...

Nice work Paul! Is this P4? If so, will you be bringing it along to the next meeting of the Nottingham Area Group so we can have a look at it :)

I see your name on the list but missed you at the meetings!

Best Wishes,

Howard.

posted: 30 May 2011 22:04

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Nigel Brown
 
 

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As Paul says, catch points within the lead. Used e.g. when there wasn't enough room for other arrangements. I came across them when I had the situation on my layout of what was essentially a goods loop joining with the main, and I needed a turnout in the bit joining the main, exactly as per the pic in fact, and I didn't have room to move the main turnout down a bit so that I could insert either a catch point in the bit between the turnouts, or alternatively stick in a head-shunt, which would have been better. Really it was poor planning on my part. Doing a bit of research finding out what the prototype did, came across this arrangement, in the GWR track & crossing practice book I think.

I of course put them in. I lie, no I didn't! After a bit of thought decided that I had enough to do getting the formation right so that my stock would run through it, without additional complications; this is 3mm/ft finescale. Here's a pic; you can seen where the catch points should have been.
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posted: 30 May 2011 22:15

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JFS
 
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But could you not at least put some non-working ones in?

To anyone with a signalling background, the absence of them does look rather obvious!

Or what about a pair of worked scotch blocks as an alternative?

Best Wishes,

Howard

posted: 31 May 2011 11:38

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Nigel Brown
 
 

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JFS wrote:
But could you not at least put some non-working ones in?

To anyone with a signalling background, the absence of them does look rather obvious!

Or what about a pair of worked scotch blocks as an alternative?

Best Wishes,

Howard
Hi Howard

To anyone with a signalling background there are quite a lot of things absent on this layout which ought to be there! Mainly because I didn't allow enough room for them. E.g. the signalling is going to be minimalistic, and probably no point rodding. But then this layout was always going to be a bit of a compromise, the idea being to make it compact enough to be easily moveable and slot in a number of possible sites, while capable of taking a fair amount of the stock I like building.  I'm still not sure where it's going to finally end up.

But it does show up the fact that if you want every detail in and want them to be correct you have to design them in before you actually get to work.

cheers
Nigel

posted: 31 May 2011 20:30

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Hi Howard
Nice work Paul! Is this P4? If so, will you be bringing it along to the next meeting of the Nottingham Area Group so we can have a look at it :) I see your name on the list but missed you at the meetings!
Thank you, and yes, this is P4.  I'm actually no longer a member of the Scalefour Society and I see that NAG started up after I ceased to be a member of said Soc so I won't have known about it!  I found the NAG forum on the S4Soc website so I'll keep any eye on that - I may even come along to a meeting if you'll accept a non-member :D

Impressive trackwork there in the "Learning to build track" forum!  I'll have a proper read later on.

Cheers

posted: 31 May 2011 22:45

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JFS
 
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Hi Paul,

Guests very welcome (especially if they are Temploteers!)

Next Meeting next Tuesday, 19.30 at the Boat and Horses, Trent Road, Beeston Rylands, NG9 1LP

Hope to see you there!

Best Wishes,

Howard



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