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posted: 21 Dec 2012 00:00 from: Tony Errington
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Hi Folks this is my first attempt at posting to a forum so apologies if I am in the wrong section. I have just completed my first track plan using Templot. It is of Newport Shropshire (1950) in EM Gauge. I intend to print it on my Epsom R3000 Photo Printer. Has anyone used this printer for a Templot track plan? Whilst I am familiar with all the photographic papers available for this printer I would obviously like to use the cheapest Roll Paper (13" wide) for the track plan to keep the cost down but also to minimise the number of pieces of paper I need to join together. Failing that would normal A3 "photocopy paper" be ok. Templot is a fantastic piece of software, and although I was seriously assisted by Gordon Roden, (Chairman of our local club) I am addicted and will certainly be spending a great deal more time learning in more detail. The printer can take up to A3+ sheets (19" x 13") so maybe that is an option. Any advice please! |
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posted: 21 Dec 2012 14:10 from: richard_t
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In my old Epson 1200 I used wall paper lining paper cut down to size (hacksaw whilst it was still on the roll). It was Martin's idea, and did work, but getting it started was a bit of a pain - and you have to make sure it stayed straight. I also tried fax roll, but I haven't found any wide enough, and I think the results weren't great. I too have an R3000 after my 1200's inks got stupidly expensive. I'm not sure I'm brave enough to try lining paper in it, as it's still a bit new and shiny for me :-D I've tried A3 photo paper, and that printed a treat with Templot. Richard. |
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posted: 21 Dec 2012 15:36 from: brianod
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Hi Tony, I print my track plan on A3 80 gm paper using my canon printer and then stick them together using a paper glue (Pritt Stick or similar). There are guide lines on each sheet to make lining them up quite easy, simply use a straight edge. My printer does not have the facility to use roll paper so I cannot comment on this.I then glue the sleepers down to the template for construction again using Pritt Stick. When the section of track is completed, simply wet the paper and the completed track comes off quite easily. Tony Errington wrote: Hi Folks this is my first attempt at posting to a forum so apologies if I am in the wrong section. |
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posted: 21 Dec 2012 16:35 from: Paul Boyd
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Hi TonyWhilst I am familiar with all the photographic papers available for this printer I would obviously like to use the cheapest Roll Paper (13" wide) for the track plan to keep the cost down but also to minimise the number of pieces of paper I need to join together.This might be a silly question, but what are you using the "track plan" for? The reason for asking is that assuming you're going to build the track on it, rather than just use it as a guide, then you need a stable paper that won't buckle with moisture, especially if you're going to slosh flux around. That definitely rules out photocopy paper, in my experience! Even if you use a "dry" method, the paper absorbs moisture from the air and can buckle and distort. I used to use roll paper but got bored of trying to get it to feed  My current method to reduce the number of sheets is to use A2 board (somewhere around 250gsm) cut in half lengthways, so giving a single sheet the same size as two A4 sheets end to end (210mm x 594mm). I then set a custom paper size in the printer driver and off I go! For the printer you mention (Epson, not the place in Surrey  ) you might be able to use the same principle with A1 board to give effectively a single sheet equivalent to two A3 pages end to end (297mm x 840mm) if your custom paper size allows that.Once I have the printout, it's varnished with Ronseal to protect it, then trackbuilding starts. Hope some of this is helpful! |
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posted: 21 Dec 2012 19:33 from: Nigel Brown click the date to link to this post click member name to view archived images |
I've never understood why Epson provides printers with a perfectly good roll paper mechanism and then fails to provide matt paper rolls which can be used on it. Annoying! My R800 has just been pensioned off. I'd like to go A3, but am dithering between R1500, R2000 and R3000. Whether it's worthwhile sticking out for a roll feed facility is a significant question. In the meantime I'm making do with an R200, and am pleasantly surprised with the (photographic) results I'm getting. I did investigate a few roll paper options with the R800, but found nothing which satisfied me. |
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posted: 22 Dec 2012 15:11 from: Tony Errington
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Hi Richard and thanks for the early reply. My R3000 is literally just out of the box so I think I will wait a while before I try the lining paper. If A3 worked fine then I will have a go with the cheapest A3+ that I can find as at least that gives me 28% more area and therefore less sheets to stick together. I actually have an option of an A0 plotter at work but don't like to ask. However as needs must. I will post my results / findings. Tony |
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posted: 22 Dec 2012 15:34 from: Tony Errington
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Hi Guys, told you I was new to Forums! Should have replied to Brian, Paul and Nigel also. I do intend to build onto the track plan so take the advice on the more substantial paper / board, thanks. Given what I have spent so far going EM it does seems a nonsense to try to cut costs on printing to the cheapest medium so forget that as my intention. Is there a board / paper size that will cut down two 2 sheets of A3+ ? Should put things in perspective really. I came to Railway modelling very recently following a major motorcycling accident that ended that as a life long passion. Can't believe how addicted I have become to this hobby. The Newport layout is my very first attempt at anything and coupled with the decision to go EM I know I have jumped in at the deep end to some degree. However with an engineering background and some skills in that direction I suspect scenery and other parts of the layout building process will be my biggest challenges. I have assisted in the building of some 00 fine scale turnouts at the club and have recently built my first B6 EM Gauge turnout (Ply and rivet) on my 4ft x 1ft test track. It runs very well and I am quite pleased with it I am lucky that I have assistance with Templot and find the whole aspect of this hobby totally therapeutic. Thanks for the help Tony |
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