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posted: 1 Feb 2014 20:01

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Martin Wynne
 
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As you know, we have the beginnings of a new Templot Companion web site at:

 http://templot.com/companion/index.html

Alexander at EC Software has now produced a nifty new package to create a replacement for the ageing E-Book executable format. It seems to me that this has the potential to become a much-needed alternative to the old Microsoft HTML Help (.chm) format.

The main advantage over the web-based format is that each call from within the Templot program would open in the same window, which you can resize and minimize independently of your browser. The disadvantage of the web-based format is that each call opens a fresh browser tab or window.

Now that most folks have broadband, there is not the size problem when including the entire docs in each update download as there once was, so you might like to try downloading and running this test (20MB):

 http://templot.info/beta_ewriter_test.exe

Compare the functioning of the viewer with the web version, and let me know if anything doesn't work the same way. Thanks.

Please don't comment on the content, this is just a test of the viewer functionality.

The file is for test only, and will expire in 7 days time.

The viewer uses Internet Explorer as the rendering engine. If you have javascript turned off in Internet Explorer, full functionality will not be available.

Many thanks,

Martin.

posted: 1 Feb 2014 21:48

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John Lewis
 
Croydon - United Kingdom

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Martin - A problem. I downloaded the file and Windows (8.1) has refused to let me running the file on the grounds that it is an "unrecognized application" :-((

John

posted: 1 Feb 2014 22:19

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alan@york
 
 

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Works here: Windows 7 with AVG but it did advise me against loading, and running it.

posted: 1 Feb 2014 22:29

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Paul Willis
 
 

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John Lewis wrote:
Martin - A problem. I downloaded the file and Windows (8.1) has refused to let me running the file on the grounds that it is an "unrecognized application" :-((

John
Not necessarily a W8.1 issue.

This laptop just downloaded it in a flash and opened it up with no problems at all.  Content looks very smart and seems to be functional.

I'm running a Lenovo i7 processor, W8.1 fully up to date with patches, and Avast! Free as the AV/Firewall, on top on the inbuilt Windows Defender.

HTH
Paul Willis



posted: 1 Feb 2014 22:34

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Bruce A Wilson
 
Barrie - Ontario Canada

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Works fine for me WinXP Pro SP3 with all current updates, running AVG AV

posted: 1 Feb 2014 22:51

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Glen Suckling
 
Oswego - New York USA

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Hi Martin,

I tried it in IE10 using both W7 and W8 (64bit). It worked well on both machines. I did not have time to make a detailed comparison with companion but my initial impression is that there are no problems.

I do have one personal comment - At my age the eyesight is getting a little weak. I normally run IE at 125% which I can see fine. I could not find a way to zoom in or change the font size in the ewriter.

Glen

posted: 1 Feb 2014 23:06

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Martin Wynne
 
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Glen Suckling wrote:
I do have one personal comment - At my age the eyesight is getting a little weak. I normally run IE at 125% which I can see fine. I could not find a way to zoom in or change the font size in the ewriter.
Hi Glen,

Hold down the CTRL key and then roll the mouse wheel (this method works in most programs).

I will ask Alexander if the usual keyboard shortcuts can be added.

Thanks for this report, it is what I was really asking for -- any differences between eWriter and the existing web version.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 1 Feb 2014 23:16

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Judi R
 
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I am running WinXP and use Firefox - V26.0 - fully up to date. The exe file opened and told me my copy of Internet Explorer was out of date and "invited" me to visit Microsoft's website to download a fresh copy of IE. Since I don't want to do that, I can't open the viewer.

It did also suggest I installed an up to date copy of another browser but gave me no clue as to how to open the viewer in Firefox.

Sorry, no dice here.

Judi R

posted: 1 Feb 2014 23:20

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John Lewis
 
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Paul wrote:
Not necessarily a W8.1 issue.

This laptop just downloaded it in a flash and opened it up with no problems at all. Content looks very smart and seems to be functional.

I'm running a Lenovo i7 processor, W8.1 fully up to date with patches, and Avast! Free as the AV/Firewall, on top on the inbuilt Windows Defender.

I have now managed to run the file and it opened in Google Chrome without problems.

But to do this I had first to go to the file, right click on it and in the properties tab it said the file was blocked. So I took the "unblock" option, and then all was well. Was it my NOD32 antivirus causing the file to be blocked?

John

posted: 1 Feb 2014 23:37

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Martin Wynne
 
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John Lewis wrote:
I have now managed to run the file and it opened in Google Chrome without problems.

But to do this I had first to go to the file, right click on it and in the properties tab it said the file was blocked. So I took the "unblock" option, and then all was well. Was it my NOD32 antivirus causing the file to be blocked?
Hi John,

The reason for the security warnings is that the program code is unsigned -- I do not have a code signing certificate. To get one would cost me about £200 per year, which is untenable for a free program.

One of the downsides of Templot being free is that you must click away these security warnings. Sorry.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 2 Feb 2014 08:55

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Jim Guthrie
 
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Martin,

It seems to run fine on my Win7 64bit setup. I get the "Do you want to run this program" dialog box at the start, in common with a lot of other bits of software I have, and it starts and runs well when clicking through that dialog.

Like Glen. I usually run web pages at slightly larger sizes and am used to using Ctrl+, but the Ctrl + Middle Wheel works fine for enlarging.

Jim.

posted: 2 Feb 2014 09:01

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Phil O
 
Plymouth - United Kingdom

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Hi Martin

Works OK for me XP pro SP3 using Firefox.

Cheers Phil

posted: 2 Feb 2014 09:42

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Stephen Freeman
 
Sandbach - United Kingdom

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Hi,

Yes as per Phil O but it seems an awful lot slower than the web based one.

posted: 2 Feb 2014 11:38

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Paul Boyd
 
Loughborough - United Kingdom

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Hi Martin

It just works fine, with no warnings or anything. This is on Windows 7 Home Premium, 64 bit with Microsoft Security Essentials for AV protection.

Go for it!

posted: 2 Feb 2014 11:44

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stuart1600
 
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Seems to work fine for me on Windows7; didn't notice any significant speed issues.
Stuart

posted: 2 Feb 2014 12:00

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Len Cattley
 
Bracknell - United Kingdom

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Hi Martin works for me using Acer 5750 i3 windows7, Firefox 26.00 with Norton 360, I had to ignore the coding certificate and said it was safe to run.

Len

posted: 2 Feb 2014 14:59

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Brian Nicholls
 
Poole - United Kingdom

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H I Martin,

Works fine for me, on Windows XP, SP3, AMD Athlon XP 3000+, NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200, Internet Explorere 8.

The only minor quibble, it was slow in loading the Companion data once the first original main window had opened.

Otherwise, it’s good.:thumb:

All the best.

Brian Nicholls.

posted: 2 Feb 2014 18:41

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Trevor Walling
 
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Hello Martin,
It doesn't seem to work with PCLinuxOS.It just opens an empty window which I can do nothing with.It is being opened with wine and has a very small microsoft flag icon in the top left corner.
Trevor.

posted: 2 Feb 2014 19:21

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Brian Nicholls
 
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Hi Trevor,

Probably a silly question, but did you wait a while for it to do anything before closing the viewer down ?

The reason I ask this is because when I first opened the viewer, it came up with the a basic form type screen, and having waited for a little while, began to think Martin had just sent this screen for the test (although, the size of the download file, suggested otherwise).

Then after a while, it suddenly burst into life, and the companion data came in OK.

This is why I made the comment about it in my message just above yours.

Just thought I would ask. :)

All the best.

Brian Nicholls.

posted: 2 Feb 2014 20:28

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Trevor Walling
 
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Hello,
        I tried it again and left it for a while but nothing happened.I took a screen grab of the window in question2110_021527_520000000.png2110_021527_520000000.png

Nothing happening :)
Trevor


posted: 2 Feb 2014 21:08

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Dave Summers
 
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Perhaps of limited interest, Martin, but it runs fine on my new Macbook Pro with OSX 10.9.1 under Crossover.
Cheers
Dave

posted: 2 Feb 2014 22:12

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Martin Wynne
 
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Dave Summers wrote:
Perhaps of limited interest, Martin, but it runs fine on my new Macbook Pro with OSX 10.9.1 under Crossover.
Thanks Dave.

Not of limited interest at all. It uses Internet Explorer as the rendering engine (hence the slower response than Firefox or Chrome), so it is interesting that Crossover is apparently installing a version of IE on the Mac. Normally Crossover/Linux/Wine uses Firefox as the browser.

Many thanks for all the replies. There are obviously still a few issues to iron out.

regards,

Martin.

posted: 2 Feb 2014 22:17

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PRChappell
 
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Hi Martin


I downloaded the link to my Windows 8.1 system and it took 1.5 minutes to download and all seemed ok.


It then came up with the Windows warning about not recognising the software which I accepted.


However it then continued to give the roundabout symbols and did nothing further.


Hope this is helpful even if negative. Drop me an email if you want further details/trials.


Regards


Peter

posted: 2 Feb 2014 22:41

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John Lewis
 
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Peter,
This sounds similar to the problem I had.

Try navigating to the file you downloaded, right click on it and select the "Properties" option. This will probably tell you that the file is blocked, but will also give you the option of unblocking it. Unblock it and the file should work OK.

John



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